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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:50 pm
by Angstrom
heh,
modulations chapter from that half-decent book I linked earlier

http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Page ... /6_12.html

one of the good points he mentions is establishing the original key very firmly before you go zooming off to the new one. Otherwise it can be very unstable sounding and annoying to the 99% of the population who don't like be-bop Jazz , the remaining 1% of the population are twiddly fingered musicians who think uncertain tonal centres are really hep, daddio.
;)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:08 pm
by sweetjesus
most commercial songs stick with the one key right?

i.e the verses are tension building progressions and choruses are resolves i.e. the famous progressions we know.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:13 pm
by longjohns
another good one is Db7 (tri-tone sub for G7) - then your bassline can walk down chromatically

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:17 pm
by Angstrom
sweetjesus wrote:most commercial songs stick with the one key right?

i.e the verses are tension building progressions and choruses are resolves i.e. the famous progressions we know.
examples of songs with modulations

http://www.howmusicreallyworks.com/Page ... /6_14.html

I would say 'pop' and 'dance' these days don't really do much modulating, but in the case of pop it's not a necessity - for dance-floor stuff I prefer stuff that stays in the same key myself.

but it depends if you want to be a cut above the rest with the old songwriting
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_8mVu81qc
:)

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:19 am
by sweetjesus
ok my first composition (production sux so far) after having soaked some of this stuff in.. www.fridge.net.au/audio/theforum.mp3

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:34 am
by Tone Deft
Angstrom wrote:but it depends if you want to be a cut above the rest with the old songwriting
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_8mVu81qc
:)
8)
I'm soo glad stuff like that is archived for open public consumption.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3UlQVhMAbwg <--- otis - Try A Little Tenderness Live


SJ - so notes and theory are making sense? check the scale plug in to 'lock' the keyboard into specific scales/keys, once the big picture of theory makes sense you can cheat on playing specific notes with the scale plug in, no matter what key you hit it's in tune. the toon sounds cohesive and all that, on top of all this you have the ears, have fun!