Live Vs. Acid Pro 3.0-----Now that Live Has Been Out and Upd

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Live v. Acid

Post by Hexadecimal » Thu Sep 26, 2002 4:43 am

IMHO, Live is far better for live performance, Acid is far better for studio work, which is exactly what they have concentrated on. I've used both since their 1.0x days, and still think Acid is better overall (but it does have the advantage of 2.5 versions over Live).

One problem I immediately have with Live for studio work is the lack of precise dB meters (where are my numbers in the bus view?). Being a little rough with knowing precisely where your signal is fine for me in live playback, because there's usually a compressor or limiter to keep sounds in check and rarely is someone going to point out the hi-hats where 0.2dB too loud in the reprise. But in a studio not having the exact numeric dB values on the meters will simply result in having to redo the mixdown again and again and again.

Also, the lack of recognitiion of non-looped material is a big drawback.

And of course, there's no end of problems using Acid live. Like most studio applications, it will re-buffer it's audio based on certain user actions. No big deal when you're in the studio or not in playback, but deadly live.

I have used Acid live, mostly as if it were an 8 track backing tape because you can't manipulate it during playback without taking the risk of causing a re-buffering, and hence a nasty awful second or two of rapid-fire digitalized skipping. Most unpleasant, and honestly if it didn't take me for friggin' ever and bore me close to death to resequence into Live I wouldn't ever use Acid again for any live performance.

But, by the same token, I can't tolerate to scale back the detail of my production to switch to Live for studio use.

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Post by Mbazzy » Thu Sep 26, 2002 11:23 am

As someone who ditched Acid for Live I can't agree with the above.
There certainly is an 'adjusting' time between the 2 programs, but once you 've made the mental switch , live beats AcidPro hands down.

I too come from an Acid background, but as you stated yourself,it's worthless in a live situation.

Live in arranger mode can keep pace with acidPro to a big extend - main tool for me missing is the lack of 'render each track as seperate wav' (but I'm told this is in the pipeline.

As to the argument of unsufficient metering, it's a domain where Acid is greatly unsufficient itself. I never mixdown in Acid as it s|@##{cks bigtime for mastering.


Do a mixdown in Acid and compare it with a mixdown of the same individual wavs in a dedicated multitrack environment (eg. n-track )
and you'll be amazed of the difference.
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Post by Hexadecimal » Thu Sep 26, 2002 2:57 pm

I never master in Acid either, but I do mixdown from it and don't find it hard at all to get close to my desired headroom. It, like many audio apps, isn't precisely accurate because it runs on low resolution sampling to generate it's meters. It's true maximum values are almost always within .2dB. Certainly not perfect, but way better than meters with no numbers, and no numeric indicator of scale. I've never seen any device with visual meters that didn't display either a scale on the side or a numeric at the top, which is pretty good indicator of how important such a thing is.

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Post by Guest » Sun Oct 06, 2002 3:27 pm

Live and Acid looks similar,and the functions are similar too.but i don´t think that we need to compare them.
If you need/like Live so simple use Live.

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Post by Guest » Sun Oct 06, 2002 11:41 pm

why post if you don't understand the issue of the thread...next

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Re: Live Vs. Acid Pro 3.0-----Now that Live Has Been Out and Upd

Post by cperezzz » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:20 pm

time for an upgrade then
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