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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 109692.stm

hahaha.

Speaking of howard someone who talks about him alot: JacksonJackson. Surely some of the aussies here like them?

JimJams wrote:Surely some of the aussies here like them?

apparently a lot

but not enough!

Yeah. Great band. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 109692.stm

hahaha

This is great.....change is coming at long last! I've been voting/waiting for this downfall for a long time. JWH losing his seat would be the icing on the cake.':D'

resonatorman wrote:This is great.....change is coming at long last! I've been voting/waiting for this downfall for a long time. JWH losing his seat would be the icing on the cake.':D'

the next few years should deffo be interesting nonetheless now lol

Troops out of Iraq.

Kyoto signed.

"Sorry".




GOOD ON YAS!!!!!!!!!!!

sweetjesus wrote:

resonatorman wrote:This is great.....change is coming at long last! I've been voting/waiting for this downfall for a long time. JWH losing his seat would be the icing on the cake.':D'

the next few years should deffo be interesting nonetheless now lol

Couldn't agree with you more. Hopefully at least we'll see less arrogance?

Troops out of Iraq.

hardly.

Kyoto signed.

hope so.

"Sorry".

sadly i think average joe redneck will still treat aborigines like something they scraped off their shoe. hopefully it will make the way for reconciliation easier, but it's a complex issue (one that i have absolutely no expertise in).

however i sincerely hope it starts with this.

i'm curious to see how many seats the greens won this time round.

leonard wrote:

"Sorry".

sadly i think average joe redneck will still treat aborigines like something they scraped off their shoe. hopefully it will make the way for reconciliation easier, but it's a complex issue (one that i have absolutely no expertise in).

however i sincerely hope it starts with this.

sadly Kev kind of already snubbed them http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007 ... deral/2007

I dont know what was said in context but that concerned me quite a lot - let's hope Peter Garrett keeps that one on track

leonard wrote: i'm curious to see how many seats the greens won this time round.

looks lika Labor got in on their prefs in a big way - the Tasmanian pulp mill had a lot to do with it

if you want the break down: http://vtr.aec.gov.au/Default.htm

sweetjesus wrote:


............ the surge of people from ghana, iraq, afghanistan and jordan doesn't reflect the bigotry u speak of.

Exactly!

forge wrote:
shit if you're serious you've really got sucked in to the bullshit propaganda

As Sweetjesus said, maybe I did, maybe I didn't. But that also depends on what you mean by propaganda.

I would like to say though, that I am entitled to my views and politically I do tend to sit in the middle with leanings to the right. But hey, I am all for the rights of the worker and better social conditions etc…. So I hope you don’t all think I am some kind of right wing fascist because I am far from it. Actually, I tend to vote for the greenies anyway.

But it seems that Howard lost, so congratulations to all those who voted him out. You got your wish. Let’s hope that economically Australia doesn’t slip and allows unions with unreasonable demands run the country.

it was actually quite sad seeing Howard's concession speech - very gracious

Rudd's a funny one - it will be interesting to see how government changes him

but I think they could do a lot of good things and they are much more focused on the future than the past which is a good thing

happy days

the wikipedia entry makes him sound quite promising

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Rudd

[edit: some of it - hopefully the rest of the ALP will keep him in Line - Peter Garret should be a good environment minister! )

Hate to burst your bubble Forge but may I take this opportunity to remind you that no matter who you vote for, the Government always get in.

And if voting changed anything, they'd ban it.

popslut wrote:Hate to burst your bubble Forge but may I take this opportunity to remind you that no matter who you vote for, the Government always get in.

And if voting changed anything, they'd ban it.

absolutely right

but at least the voices in the back of their heads will be pulling them to the left not the right

mainly why I care is I'm back in the Tertiary education system and the Howard govt did a lot to ruin that, while Labor was historically pretty good with it

climate change is another one - this new mob actually seem prepared to look at it while Howard wasnt

definitely lesser of two evils I think - we have to have someone in and I'd rather this lot just like I'd prefer Democrats if it was the US because they'd be less likely to start wars etc - not saints, just less damaging

in the end i voted mulcahy as he had a staunch pro DJ Albury Wodonga Shopping Plaza green field nuclear mandate and also used to piss himself reading these messages looking at the poor misguided unfortunates who really believe labo(u)r is different to conservative and that your vote is actually worth shit