Sad state of hip hop

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Wed May 07, 2008 11:42 am

softserv wrote:So, a poll: of all the commerical hip-hop producers out there, what percentage would you say are white? I honestly have no idea. I assume that many, if not most, of the major label execs are white, but in terms of producers I was under the impression many if not most were black.

And I'm talking the radio stuff, not more indie or underground. Again, a question.
djadonis206 wrote:To answer your question one of the most sought after producers in the hip hop underground and above ground is

white

Scott Storch <- check him out on the google button

softserv - you are a donut.

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Wed May 07, 2008 3:14 pm

Sad state of hip hop

started seeing this complaint about 1990, and ever since...

2bad · Post by **2bad** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:07 pm

anyone heard the lick from andrei3000 zane lowe's been playing? - now that is proper hiphop

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:07 pm

Sleep Tyght wrote: And for the record...why the fuck do black parents even ALLOW their children to watch BET? That's just fucked up parenting...fucked up BLACK PARENTING to be exact. I'll say this again and again. If you want the NIGGA SHIT in rap music to go away...it starts with the black community. Whether it's FUBU, G-UNIT, excessive TOMMY HILFIGER/NAUTICA GEAR....once we stop supporting unnecessary shit with our dollars and move on to the next trend/phase/style...

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Black parents compared to who? White parents, asian parents, somali parents?

If course it's only fair for you to have an opinion and your opinions should one celebrated but it's a very elitist opinion. Especially, since its so insensitive to say black parents who let their kids watch TV are bad parents

it's actually quite offensive - to black people

What I read from your post is black people should be more like some other make believe people who are in some make believe way perfectly normal

...and black people shouldn't celebrate their own diversity because it makes us look bad, like "niggas"

...we shouldn't wear certain clothes, rap about certain things, watch certain shows, associate with certain people because it makes us look like "niggas"

the word look implies "someone" is watching and we have get acceptance from that make believe "someone, " who is in some class of people above us

we need to be true to ourselves, no matter where we come from

what's that one electro indie techno act

Does it offend you, yeah?

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:12 pm

I like Aim and RJD2. And Aspects.

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:27 pm

kb420 wrote:

I'm one of the few who doesn't like Nas and thinks he has been one of the most overated cats in the rap biz. (And yeah, I think Jazy-Z won that battle years ago). Anyway, I bought this track after seeing him do it on MTV's New Year's Eve show, I thought it was pretty bangin'. After getting it and really checking it out...yup, once again Nas pulled a Nas. Primo can only do so much to help his wack lyrics and delivery.

"Gave my man a right when I could've went left
So like my girl Foxy the kid went deaf."

STFU Nas!

hangar17 · Post by **hangar17** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:33 pm

hangar17 · Post by **hangar17** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:34 pm

oops dbl post

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Wed May 07, 2008 4:41 pm

jamester wrote:
STFU Nas!

can't comment on his newest stuff but Illmatic - when Nas first came out the box, was pretty revolutionary (IMO)

...and I don't think Nas and Jay-Z are competing for anything anymore - so the Jay-Z video would tell me

but ya see son, I've been listening to a lot, I mean A LOT! of Trick Daddy lately so...

...what would I really know about hip hop

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:11 pm

I think Illmatic's the only reason he's gotten any respect. Every other album since has sucked. Oh yeah and he's Quincy Jones' nephew, so that doesn't hurt.

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:56 pm

djadonis206 wrote: Black parents compared to who? White parents, asian parents, somali parents?

If course it's only fair for you to have an opinion and your opinions should one celebrated but it's a very elitist opinion. Especially, since its so insensitive to say black parents who let their kids watch TV are bad parents

it's actually quite offensive - to black people

What I read from your post is black people should be more like some other make believe people who are in some make believe way perfectly normal

...and black people shouldn't celebrate their own diversity because it makes us look bad, like "niggas"

...we shouldn't wear certain clothes, rap about certain things, watch certain shows, associate with certain people because it makes us look like "niggas"

the word look implies "someone" is watching and we have get acceptance from that make believe "someone, " who is in some class of people above us

we need to be true to ourselves, no matter where we come from

ooh ooh more poetry, damn there is alot of poetry in this thread. I almost want to put DjAdonis and Sleeptyghts post on the front and back of the same t-shirt.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:03 pm

That's not poetry, that's really bad grammar (on my part)

disregard the last thing I wrote there - really really bad, poor grammar...it's kind of embarrassing.

doh

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:17 pm

you can't fool me son that was
precise
on point
engaging
truthful
realistic
yO!

and sleeps vision was valid as well, there are many folks with these two outlooks and we need to talk.

Moody · Post by **Moody** » Wed May 07, 2008 6:26 pm

Which station is White Entertainment Television on?