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Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:08 pm
by Nick the Zombie
atom heart wrote:field recordings???
Yeah, these days I tend to record environments like my back yard or a city street and use that material for processing into other sounds. If you get a particularly dynamic recording with some interesting transients involved, the fast-gating technique mentioned above can work wonders with the right threshold and envelope settings.

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:57 pm
by sans soleil
i like contact-micing electrical appliances - lots of nice stuff to be found.

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:31 pm
by Soma
I know Carsten and also know that for a fact he uses anything he can get his hands on, software wise. He is a big Reaktor user, but not a builder, mostly his brother builds for him and the guys at NI too. On Xerox for instance there is heavy Metaphysical Function (electronic instruments II) playing.
He also generates alot of the high pitch sounds and clicks with basic tools. For me, the music is not so much about HOW but about WHY and WHAT. And for those who have not seen him live you are really missing something, with the way he uses visuals to express the relation to the WHAT.

Now.. I'm off to go hear him live playing with Too Roco Rot :)

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:48 am
by atom heart
sans soleil wrote:i like contact-micing electrical appliances - lots of nice stuff to be found.

are you just recording these appliances?

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:34 am
by sans soleil
atom heart wrote:
are you just recording these appliances?
usually. i also sometimes do it live.

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:27 am
by atom heart
nice

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:02 pm
by sans soleil
actually...a cool thing to do is to contact mic my laptop - kind of a weird way of 'playing' it...'ironic commentary on laptop music' and blah-dee-blah, but it makes some really interesting sounds as well.

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:10 pm
by atom heart
sans soleil wrote:actually...a cool thing to do is to contact mic my laptop - kind of a weird way of 'playing' it...'ironic commentary on laptop music' and blah-dee-blah, but it makes some really interesting sounds as well.
can t understand what you mean could you please explain some more?

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:14 pm
by Xelat
I was experimenting with Supercollider and with quartz a while ago. It takes some time to get into it, time I don't have. Then I found out about Gleetchlab. This software is fuckin' awesome. If you like to experiement you should buy it (for 10$): http://www.gleetchplug.com/gleetchplug/software.html.

Quote from the developer (he's damn right):

WHY SAVE SETTINGS TO DISK IS NOT POSSIBLE?
I intentionally avoided including save and load functions of gleetchlab settings. (That is since the first version of gleetchlab) Why? It is an important part of my musical approach. In my analog synthesizer days there were no save fuctions at all but pencil and paper. If you approach each time a reset machine, you are forced to do something new and with little time and patience, you can master the software much better.

This idea is very underestimated in modern technology. Nowadays every machine and software has editable examples and huge memory storing functions. Many kids just press a couple of preset buttons and “hey presto”... the sound they look for is at hand. In my opinion, starting from scratch every time is much more fun and educative. If you have the explorer attitude, you will quickly learn how powerful such an approach is. GLEETCHLAB is indeed a lab. Everytime, after you use a laboratory, you clean up everything ;)

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:35 pm
by sans soleil
yeah...gleetchlab is a blast.

what i meant earlier was that i stick contact mics on my laptop/external harddrive, and have the inputs (typically 4) going into whatever software program i'm using (which is often gleetchlab , as a matter of fact) where i'm processing the sound in real-time...it's kind of interesting, because the processing itself will cause the computer to emit certain sounds, which are further processed...and so on.
does this make sense ?

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:40 pm
by atom heart
I v found that too.I m on PC though is there an alternative except dblue glitch,suppatrigga or effectrix?

BTW I m really tryig to recreate these electricity sound effect(in absolute quality) which I don't think that this is about glitching sounds but sound engineering

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:08 am
by nathan m
for a windows modular environment for working with images similar to quartz composer you may want to look at vvvv
http://vvvv.org/tiki-index.php

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:31 am
by telekom
Soma wrote:
Now.. I'm off to go hear him live playing with Too Roco Rot :)
Wow that is a perfect line-up... I'm jealous... love em both.

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:33 am
by atom heart
Very interesting !

I m still searching something like gleetclab for Pc.Anyone?

Re: Alva Noto sound design?

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:50 am
by atom heart