new MacBook and MacBook Pro on Tuesday, October 14th

condra · Post by **condra** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:10 pm

Affordable second-hand current gen MBP for me.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:13 pm

All in all: a bummer for both macbook & macbook pro users. Plus they're ugly.

Oh well, the upside is that the previous gen Penryn MBP's will be sold at a discount. Looks like that's what I'll be getting.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:18 pm

What a joke.

And a money saver for me. Let's watch their stock drop, yay.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:22 pm

wait, no firewire 400 on the new macbook pros? Only Firewire 800? Is that new with this model or did the last model drop the 400 as well?

Is it as simple as using a converter cable with one end 400 and one end 800 for audio devices? Never used the 800 slot before on the macbook pro.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:26 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:wait, no firewire 400 on the new macbook pros? Only Firewire 800? Is that new with this model or did the last model drop the 400 as well?

it's new

glitchrock-buddha wrote:Is it as simple as using a converter cable with one end 400 and one end 800 for audio devices? Never used the 800 slot before on the macbook pro.

yes: firewire 800 to 400 cable

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:31 pm

I wonder if Apogee Duets will still be sold in Apple stores now that it can't be used with the current macbook!

LMFAO! No firewire????

The killer is that they didn't add an extra usb 2.0 port. 99% of real audio gear requires native ports.

Color me un(der)impressed. Also, there is no $1,099 model...

Wake me up when they release an all touch screen macbook.

I guess if I had to buy a new notebook I would have to spend $2,000 on the Macbook Pro. Couldn't justify buying a macbook and not having a native firewire port and only two native ports... not when they offered it in the earlier, cheaper version.

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:34 pm

thelike5 wrote:I wonder if Apogee Duets will still be sold in Apple stores now that it can't be used with the current macbook!

LMFAO! No firewire????

The killer is that they didn't add an extra usb 2.0 port. 99% of real audio gear requires native ports.

Color me un(der)impressed. Also, there is no $1,099 model...

Wake me up when they release an all touch screen macbook.

I guess if I had to buy a new notebook I would have to spend $2,000 on the Macbook Pro. Couldn't justify buying a macbook and not having a native firewire port and only two native ports... not when they offered it in the earlier, cheaper version.

You're right. Unbelievable!
I will not sell my Black Macbook. Neither I'll buy a new one. Stupid Apple you just throw 1 customer to the wind!

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:34 pm

No Firewire. Traitors.

Oh well. I already knew my next laptop was going to be a Lenovo.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:35 pm

Yeah, absolutely worthless for a klutz like me. I already killed one iPhone, strategically dropping it just right to break the glass.

Apple are bragging about the glass going right to the edge on these displays, and it's a design flaw, done for aesthetic reasons. The practical implications of this are horrifying, one drop on an edge and you're out $1200+ for a new screen, accidental drops are not covered under Apple Care. Think about it, you spend $999 or x2 on a laptop and one drop doesn't ruin it's good looks with a dent etc. but kills the thing?? If you do get one of these the only sane option is to purchase at Best Buy, and get their accidental damage insurance.

OK maybe I'm missing something, hopefully they aren't using actual glass?

[edit..again] Yeah, actual glass, and they're bragging about it being more durable, which is bullshit, I know first hand it's not going to be.

jah4life · Post by **jah4life** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:42 pm

WTF?

NO Firewire 400!?

NO firewire AT ALL on Macbooks!?

MORE MONEY!?

Yeah apple you really screwed the pooch on this one!

I mean what the hell were they thinking? Did someone forget to tell them that thousands of people use their macbooks with FW400 devices?

I wonder if enough angry audiophiles write in demanding the return of FW to the macbooks they might actually add it?

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:43 pm

noisetonepause wrote:No Firewire. Traitors.

Oh well. I already knew my next laptop was going to be a Lenovo.

I'm there with you, but probably a used Panasonic Toughbook. Within the next three years I plan to switch to Linux, and a laptop that's built to last 10 years.

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:45 pm

Machinesworking wrote:Apple are bragging about the glass going right to the edge on these displays, and it's a design flaw, done for aesthetic reasons.

OK maybe I'm missing something, hopefully they aren't using actual glass?

The aesthetics are equally flawed in my opinion. Ugh.

Plus with the glass & the black on the frame around the glossy display you have an even LARGER reflective surface to see everything behind you reflected in! The exact opposite of the experience I want when using a computer.

t1mp · Post by **t1mp** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:46 pm

sad day

no firewire

oblique strategies · Post by **oblique strategies** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:48 pm

jah4life wrote: I wonder if enough angry audiophiles write in demanding the return of FW to the macbooks they might actually add it?

They might. There was one iteration of the MBP that had no firewire 800 port on it, & the next gen had it replaced. Hope springs eternal!

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:59 pm

I guess Apple fgures only "pros" use firewire? Thanks for the compliment but I'm not so sure...