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ilia wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ia.georgia

Tell me about it! To be honest I did not expect this viewpoint from Guardian. Nice to read a more Eastern perspective from an English paper.

spkey wrote:

landrvr1 wrote:
Diplomacy. So overrated. .


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Where was Georgians' deplomacy? Anyway, you're just being a prick trying to wind people up. Since you start an arguement before you even join a debate let me remind you about American Diplomacy (the country which has started most wars and all of them outside American oil).

America started most wars? Not even close, pal. omfg.


Anyway.


Typical and classic deflection move. Ignore the facts in front of your face and point out American faults.

It's so much easier.


Still.


Typical that the response is always "It's the Georgian's fault".


Fucking pathetic, and totally misses the point.


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ilia wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ia.georgia

exactly

Headline
This is a tale of US expansion not Russian aggression


Amazing. Fucking Amazing.


This is so not unlike the end of the 80s, when Europe couldn't lick the balls of the Soviets fast enough or hard enough. The US was always painted as the aggressor, while the Russians - even as they rolled in and literally pounded Afghanistan into tiny bits in order to Expand Their Empire - was hailed as the innocent voice of reason and counterbalance to America's aggression.





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landrvr1 wrote:Headline
This is a tale of US expansion not Russian aggression


Amazing. Fucking Amazing.


This is so not unlike the end of the 80s, when Europe couldn't lick the balls of the Soviets fast enough or hard enough. The US was always painted as the aggressor, while the Russians - even as they rolled in and literally pounded Afghanistan into tiny bits in order to Expand Their Empire - was hailed as the innocent voice of reason and counterbalance to America's aggression.








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stick to the news, beatch!

4.33 wrote:

ilia wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... ia.georgia

exactly

Diplomacy. Still awaiting your response.


Let's face it, you fuckers just couldn't wait to pound Georgia into the ground and - fools that they are - they gave you that reason on a silver platter.

And, like Pavlov's Dog, you guys came through with flying colours.


Bravo.


Who's next? I hear those Chechens are acting up again. Better go teach them a fucking lesson as well.


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4.33 wrote:

landrvr1 wrote:Headline
This is a tale of US expansion not Russian aggression


Amazing. Fucking Amazing.


This is so not unlike the end of the 80s, when Europe couldn't lick the balls of the Soviets fast enough or hard enough. The US was always painted as the aggressor, while the Russians - even as they rolled in and literally pounded Afghanistan into tiny bits in order to Expand Their Empire - was hailed as the innocent voice of reason and counterbalance to America's aggression.








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stick to the news, beatch!

Lack of Russian Diplomacy. Not even a 30 sec phone call before the tanks and planes rolled in to teach those dirty rats a lesson.


Still awaiting your reply.



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I mean, fuck. At least Bush and Cheney and Co. took 2 seconds to put on a bullshit Dog and Pony show in front of the UN before the bombing started.


Russia on the other hand? Meh. Why bother. We'll get a free fucking pass.


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speaking of genocide
this is tshinval:
http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=143891&c ... _id=200325

but of course, this was just a handy excuse......

landrvr1 wrote:

America started most wars? Not even close, pal. omfg.

Well, it took me only 5" to Google. I'm sure you'll find plenty of good quality content here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... ted_States

and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism

landrvr1 wrote:Anyway.


Typical and classic deflection move. Ignore the facts in front of your face and point out American faults.

It's so much easier.


Still.


Typical that the response is always "It's the Georgian's fault".


Fucking pathetic, and totally misses the point.


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So what is the point, you have failed to show us from the start of your thread. Instead of starting a constructive discussion you just attack and present yourself as someone who questions nothing.

Let's really just get all you assholes to come right out and say it.

Say it once. For me. Seriously.

Say it:

Russia was justified in it's actions.

Go ahead. Be fucking men for a change and just say it.

I want to hear you assholes say it. I want to hear that even a shred of diplomacy was not necessary.

Fucking cowards.



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Strange to see that these political topics get the most hits on a music forum.

spkey wrote: Well, it took me only 5" to Google. I'm sure you'll find plenty of good quality content here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... ted_States

and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism

1. That's a list of wars that America has been a part of, and not a list of wars that the US has started.

2. You're original statement was that the US started most wars. Point in fact, the list of wars that Britain alone has STARTED would make the TOTAL list of wars that the US has been involved in look like a short grocery list.

I can give you plenty of numbers, but since you're so handy with Wiki I'll let you do your homework.

Next.

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landrvr1 wrote:
Who's next? I hear those Chechens are acting up again. Better go teach them a fucking lesson as well.


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On the contrary, I read Chechens and Russians founght on the same side!

Anyway, this is not about western/eastern media but about people who question things and people who swallow everything they 've been given. Ancient stuff...

spkey wrote:

landrvr1 wrote:

America started most wars? Not even close, pal. omfg.

Well, it took me only 5" to Google. I'm sure you'll find plenty of good quality content here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wa ... ted_States

and here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism

landrvr1 wrote:Anyway.


Typical and classic deflection move. Ignore the facts in front of your face and point out American faults.

It's so much easier.


Still.


Typical that the response is always "It's the Georgian's fault".


Fucking pathetic, and totally misses the point.


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So what is the point, you have failed to show us from the start of your thread. Instead of starting a constructive discussion you just attack and present yourself as someone who questions nothing.

Wrong. I question everything. My first question is that how in the fuck are so many of you assholes so called 'peace lovers', yet don't have one ounce of courage to admit that diplomacy should have been utilized by the Russians and that they were completely in the wrong to roll the tanks in immediately.


Hey. There's a Fire. Let's fan the fucking flames by rolling in the tanks and flying in the jet fighters!


There's a question. A big question, in fact.

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