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History channel has a great one, explaining that the early traces of the bible were in fact... left by aliens.

"aliens"? Maybe you mean "alienated"...

5 Real Deleted Bible Scenes In Which Jesus Kicks Some Ass

http://www.cracked.com/article_18948_5- ... e-ass.html

Sounds like a proper arsehole. No wonder they crucified the psycho.

Forge. wrote:5 Real Deleted Bible Scenes In Which Jesus Kicks Some Ass

http://www.cracked.com/article_18948_5- ... e-ass.html

Sounds like a proper arsehole. No wonder they crucified the psycho.

(1) your words are very offensive and unrespectful
(2) there was no "arsehole", "psycho" etc. because JC is not a real character, but just a religious allegory. The romans crucified so called subversives, not "jesus christ" as "god" intended. The ones nowadays the State calls "terrorists" (old lame excuse for war: see 9/11)

What makes you think he wasn't real,do you have some articles or evidence to suggest that he was not real? What I read is that most scholars except that he was a real person.

nathannn wrote:What makes you think he wasn't real,do you have some articles or evidence to suggest that he was not real? What I read is that most scholars except that he was a real person.

It is not that "he was not real". It is that there were thousands of so called "christs" and they were all crucified NOT because they claimed they were "the messiah", BUT because they were subversives against roman empire. The same as nowadays with so-called "evil terrorists against U.S.".

Jesus Christ as described in the Bible is just an allegory of the sun, taken by ancient legends (mithra, iside, etc.) in which there is a man born in a stable from a virgin who makes miracles, dies at 33, after 3 days resurrects etc. Explained yet.

In 300 AD the Roman Empire (some years before the end) introduced the Jesus Christ religion NOT because it is something "sacred" but inly because they had to control riots. So they changed "propaganda machinery" (at that time: religion and war. Nowadays: TV/MOVIES etc. and war).

myrnova wrote:

nathannn wrote:What makes you think he wasn't real,do you have some articles or evidence to suggest that he was not real? What I read is that most scholars except that he was a real person.

It is not that "he was not real". It is that there were thousands of so called "christs" and they were all crucified NOT because they claimed they were "the messiah", but becaise they were subversives against roman empire. The same as nowadays with so-called "evil terrorists against U.S.".

Jesus Christ as described in the Bible is just an allegory of the sun, taken by ancient legends (mithra, iside, etc.) in which there is a man born in a stable from a virgin who makes miracles, dies at 33, after 3 days resurrects etc. Explained yet.

J. Christ = O. B. Laden.

Swweeeeeeeeet....

myrnova wrote:

nathannn wrote:What makes you think he wasn't real,do you have some articles or evidence to suggest that he was not real? What I read is that most scholars except that he was a real person.

It is not that "he was not real". It is that there were thousands of so called "christs" and they were all crucified NOT because they claimed they were "the messiah", BUT because they were subversives against roman empire. The same as nowadays with so-called "evil terrorists against U.S.".

Jesus Christ as described in the Bible is just an allegory of the sun, taken by ancient legends (mithra, iside, etc.) in which there is a man born in a stable from a virgin who makes miracles, dies at 33, after 3 days resurrects etc. Explained yet.

In 300 AD the Roman Empire (some years before the end) introduced the Jesus Christ religion NOT because it is something "sacred" but inly because they had to control riots. So they changed "propaganda machinery" (at that time: religion and war. Nowadays: TV/MOVIES etc. and war).

It sounds like you are quoting the "documentary" Zeitgeist, is that where you are getting your information?

Jack McOck wrote:

myrnova wrote:

nathannn wrote:What makes you think he wasn't real,do you have some articles or evidence to suggest that he was not real? What I read is that most scholars except that he was a real person.

It is not that "he was not real". It is that there were thousands of so called "christs" and they were all crucified NOT because they claimed they were "the messiah", but becaise they were subversives against roman empire. The same as nowadays with so-called "evil terrorists against U.S.".

Jesus Christ as described in the Bible is just an allegory of the sun, taken by ancient legends (mithra, iside, etc.) in which there is a man born in a stable from a virgin who makes miracles, dies at 33, after 3 days resurrects etc. Explained yet.

J. Christ = O. B. Laden.

Swweeeeeeeeet....

You think it is a joke or smth, but just have a look at some countries, where Bin Laden is described as a saint and a hero, riding a horse, saving children etc. You think "oh, dumb taliban propaganda", right? It is, of course. Now, guess why, as soon one talks about western propaganda machinery and U.S. brainwashing american citizens, people react like "ban him"...

nathannn wrote:It sounds like you are quoting the "documentary" Zeitgeist, is that where you are getting your information?

Zeit what?
No, it is enough reading some elementary (meaning: "elementary school") book of history, actually.

Yup. All "good" people are just terrorists+brainwashing.

Jack McOck wrote:Yup. All "good" people are terrorists+brainwashing.

"terrorism" is something made by the State in order to fright population and mantain the power. What you call "terrorists" are just subsersives, religious fanatics, partisans, etc. Every State calls "terrorist" the ones who "go against" some rules.

In case of Bin Laden's organisation I guess it is a religious fanatics' one, like the KKK in U.S. or some ultrafascist christians in Switzerland. There is no need to call them "terrorists". This is just a word used by the State to justify wars and crimes. Only dumb people can think "terrorism" is for real...

myrnova wrote:

nathannn wrote:It sounds like you are quoting the "documentary" Zeitgeist, is that where you are getting your information?

Zeit what?
No, it is enough reading some elementary (meaning: "elementary school") book of history, actually.

Your history books in elementary school tell you that Jesus was really the sun and that he is just one of thousands of terrorist christs?
I would like to see that school book.

nathannn wrote:

myrnova wrote:

nathannn wrote:It sounds like you are quoting the "documentary" Zeitgeist, is that where you are getting your information?

Zeit what?
No, it is enough reading some elementary (meaning: "elementary school") book of history, actually.

Your history books in elementary school tell you that Jesus was really the sun and that he is just one of thousands of terrorist christs?
I would like to see that school book.

Just study old pre-greek mythology, the cult of mithra, roman history and cultural anthropology. Everyone (with a basic culture) knows the cult of jesus christ is just a version of the ancient main mithra's cult of the sun and hundreds of similar gods (in particular the egyptian ones) adapted for "modern" times by the romans and by italian church (mithra: born in a stable on 25th december, his mother was a virgin, made miracles, killed on a cross, died at 33, after 3 days resurrected to save humanity). If you need, I explain to you what it means in terms of "symbology"

myrnova wrote:
Just study old pre-greek mythology, the cult of mithra and cultural anthropology. Everyone (with a basic culture) knows the cult of jesus christ is just a version of the main mithra's cult of the sun and hundreds of similar gods (in particular the egyptian ones) (mithra: born in a stable on 25th december, his mother was a virgin, made miracles, killed on a cross, died at 33, after 3 days resurrected to save humanity). If you need, I explain to you what it means in terms of "symbology"

I vaguely remember hearing something like that in the "documentary" Zietgiest, I didn't watch the whole movie though because it came off as shit some one made for a school project.
I never have studied greek mythology, I have studied greek philosophy. I will look into the history of the cult of mithra though.