Obama wins, Dems will crush the weak-ass republicans cuz...

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I am voting for

Obama
46
58%
McCain
6
8%
That chick from the Transformers movie
28
35%
 
Total votes: 80

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Post by deva » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:55 am

Tone Deft wrote:deva - lots of points. thanks for the lack of namecalling and stuff.

not a lot of time ATM but in general I'd reply to you talking about how all the candidates are shady politicians. a similar line of thinking to yours IMO is that the whole thing is corrupt and wrong so don't vote.
Not all the candidates... I respect Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. The first 2 are still candidates, the later 2 dropped out obviously.

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:57 am

deva - if you don't vote for Obama I'm going to put signs all over California telling Californians to move to Oregon.

:evil:

you never know... black box voting is also working against the Democrats.

to think the world's fate for the next 4 years is hinging on people in Ohio and Florida... omfg. I mean, the great, wonderful, beautiful, intelligent people of Ohio and Florida, lovely people, I'd move there but I'm not worthy.
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Post by forge » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:58 am

doc holiday wrote:i think biden was a bad choice for obama


hey forge did you check out this thread yet?

good reads for you in there:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... highlight=


not that it's likely you would miss something around here. :P
yeah I did - interesting! but I've already wasted too much time on this today - need to work!!

:wink:

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Post by deva » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:00 am

Tone Deft wrote: I'd also look into him still supporting an embargo, I don't know. I wouldn't care if he did. let the people get out if they want but the Cuban government is fucked up.
Their government is less fucked up than ours. Cuba sends doctors to troubled spots in the world. We send bombs. Cuba has better health care than we do. Cuba has a lower infant mortality rate. Cuba does not have a military that is threatening the world with nuclear war.

If Obama came out and said "I will, under no circumstances, use nuclear weapons in an offensive first strike, nor use them under any circumstances against a non nuclear nation", that might be enough for me to vote for him right there...

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Post by ethios4 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:01 am

Tone Deft wrote:to think the world's fate for the next 4 years is hinging on people in Ohio and Florida... omfg. I mean, the great, wonderful, beautiful, intelligent people of Ohio and Florida, lovely people, I'd move there but I'm not worthy.
No kidding. I'm just now coming to terms with this reality. That damn red state/blue state map kills me!

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Post by deva » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:01 am

Tone Deft wrote:deva - if you don't vote for Obama I'm going to put signs all over California telling Californians to move to Oregon.

:evil:
you bastard!!!

that is fightin dirty!!

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Post by deva » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:02 am

Tone Deft wrote: to think the world's fate for the next 4 years is hinging on people in Ohio and Florida... omfg. I mean, the great, wonderful, beautiful, intelligent people of Ohio and Florida, lovely people, I'd move there but I'm not worthy.
Ten ways the McCain/Palin GOP is now stealing the Ohio vote
http://www.freepress.org/departments/di ... /2008/3201

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:03 am

re: Cuba has a better government than the US? c'mon man. :roll:
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Post by deva » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:04 am

Tone Deft wrote:deva - if you don't vote for Obama I'm going to put signs all over California telling Californians to move to Oregon.

:evil:

you never know... black box voting is also working against the Democrats.
We have mail in ballots here...

but yeah, I think there is a high likelihood that McCain will win through vote fraud (see link in previous post)

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Post by deva » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:07 am

Tone Deft wrote:re: Cuba has a better government than the US? c'mon man. :roll:
okay, by what measure do you define better?

The Cuban government takes better care of the population than ours does, and that is in the face of 50 years of a crippling embargo that has made life very hard for the people there...

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:07 am

you're going to make me cry, seriously...

I can go pages arguing with b0unce, get called names that would make a sailor blush, take personal attacks from any angle and not care. you're killing me man.

:cry:

if McCain wins the rioting will make Rodney King look like a church picnic, we'll destroy the country before McFuck gets sworn in.
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Post by john gordon » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:13 am

Tone Deft wrote:you're going to make me cry, seriously...

I can go pages arguing with b0unce, get called names that would make a sailor blush, take personal attacks from any angle and not care. you're killing me man.

:cry:

if McCain wins the rioting will make Rodney King look like a church picnic, we'll destroy the country before McFuck gets sworn in.
i am with you there.

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Post by adventurepants_ » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:25 am

Tone Deft wrote:deva - if you don't vote for Obama I'm going to put signs all over California telling Californians to move to Oregon.

:evil:

you never know... black box voting is also working against the Democrats.

to think the WESTERN world's fate for the next 4 years is hinging on people in Ohio and Florida... omfg. I mean, the great, wonderful, beautiful, intelligent people of Ohio and Florida, lovely people, I'd move there but I'm not worthy.
fixed that for you. most of the worlds population (ie China and India) dont
give a fuck who the leisure suited inhabitants of Florida pick, as long as Americans keep buying their shit, and keep sending their jobs to them.

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Post by pilcrow » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:27 am

Tone Deft wrote:deva - if you don't vote for Obama I'm going to put signs all over California telling Californians to move to Oregon.

:evil:

you never know... black box voting is also working against the Democrats.

to think the world's fate for the next 4 years is hinging on people in Ohio and Florida... omfg. I mean, the great, wonderful, beautiful, intelligent people of Ohio and Florida, lovely people, I'd move there but I'm not worthy.
What idiotic blather.

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:31 am

how so?
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Why do I smile
At people who I'd much rather kick in the eye?
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