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Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:41 am
by wehkah
designwebuk wrote:...

4. Sharper UI, Ableton does not seem as sharp in contrast to other DAW's - check if you have the zoom option changed / at 100% it should be sharp because Live is plain 2D
Ableton will implement some nice features in the future im sure. The Bitwig peepz dont have to build a new concept from ground up at all so maybe it seems a step forward these days. ;)

cheers
T

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 12:15 pm
by panten
Bitwig - An education

Have I migrated? No

It's exciting and clever. I feel that they are doing the right thing and we're on the cusp of something great and what we're witnessing are the foundations, laid bare, and it's a beautiful sight.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=407102

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:08 pm
by crofter
Tried the demo, can't be arsed with it, I have enough software already.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:25 pm
by deva
turning off a plugin device does not disable the cpu use...

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:37 pm
by Treshell
deva wrote:turning off a plugin device does not disable the cpu use...

Sounds revolutionary. When will Live get this?

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:39 pm
by timothyallan
Treshell wrote:
deva wrote:turning off a plugin device does not disable the cpu use...

Sounds revolutionary. When will Live get this?
I love that this is your 2nd post. You'll fit right in.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:47 pm
by fishmonkey
fishmonkey wrote:my favourite tragic irony so far is the fact that delay compensation for automation is actually a bit fucked up in Bitwig...
apparently they've tracked that bug down now, and it will be fixed in 1.04...

i feel sorry for those guys, given the massive list of bugs and omissions and features they have to work on. they must already be exhausted having made it to this stage.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:54 pm
by deva
fishmonkey wrote:
fishmonkey wrote:my favourite tragic irony so far is the fact that delay compensation for automation is actually a bit fucked up in Bitwig...
apparently they've tracked that bug down now, and it will be fixed in 1.04...

i feel sorry for those guys, given the massive list of bugs and omissions and features they have to work on. they must already be exhausted having made it to this stage.
But now they got some cash!!

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:59 pm
by panten
i feel sorry for those guys, given the massive list of bugs and omissions and features they have to work on. they must already be exhausted having made it to this stage.
..and all this just to please a bunch of whiny kids on the web who probably will never buy their software anyway.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:30 am
by kb420
timothyallan wrote:
Treshell wrote:
deva wrote:turning off a plugin device does not disable the cpu use...

Sounds revolutionary. When will Live get this?
I love that this is your 2nd post. You'll fit right in.
That's funken. he loves the word "revolutionary".

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:35 am
by timothyallan
Well colour me embarrassed.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:38 am
by fishmonkey
i hope Bitwig survive but i think they have greatly underestimated the amount of blood sweat and tears required to build a Live-like DAW from scratch...

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:12 am
by timothyallan
fishmonkey wrote:i hope Bitwig survive but i think they have greatly underestimated the amount of blood sweat and tears required to build a Live-like DAW from scratch...
They've done a -very- good job for small team and a 1.0 release.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:19 am
by fishmonkey
timothyallan wrote:
fishmonkey wrote:i hope Bitwig survive but i think they have greatly underestimated the amount of blood sweat and tears required to build a Live-like DAW from scratch...
They've done a -very- good job for small team and a 1.0 release.
i agree that what they have achieved is admirable, i still think it is clear that they have underestimated things.

the question is can they build and keep the momentum needed to survive and/or thrive as a commercial product?

i hope so.

Re: The Great BitWig Migration

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:23 am
by UncleAge
fishmonkey wrote:i hope Bitwig survive but i think they have greatly underestimated the amount of blood sweat and tears required to build a Live-like DAW from scratch...
I don't agree. This is one thing I think they do understand. The principle partners have been developing in this market for quite some time.

With that said I think their offering is a bit premature. I think they should have made the first appearances this year and spent some time smoothing a few basic things out before release. And it would have possibly been ready late summer.

I'm looking forward to whatever is the next major release, but I can't buy it at this point in time. I have done this before with energyXT and Podium and Tracktion. You put money down in hopes it will develop into the toolset you want/need. At $400 I can't afford to be that supportive and it be such a basic toolset.

No migration for me.