Shifting to LINUX, leaving ableton live....

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Post by adventurepants_ » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:31 pm

xh9o wrote:
adventurepants_ wrote:just take responsibility for the fact that youd rather pirate it than pay for it.
cry me a river.
just be a man/woman/shemale and take responsibilty for your actions.

All of these anti-microsoft revolutionaries on the internet always turn out to be whiny little bitches in freshly pressed Che Guevara T shirts. Yeah stick it to the man Che!
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Post by Kodama » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:03 am

GO VEGAN!!! - Macbook Air, Bass Station II, Some Korg shit, Live Suite, U-He, Audio Damage, Microtonic, Ohmicide, more soft stuffs, awesome controllers, euro rack modular synth,an awesome cat.

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Post by leedsquietman » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:03 am

What I don't get is why the OP felt he needed to say goodbye.

I don't remember him contributing anything significant and he won't be missed. Go to your EnergyXT and Renoise and be happy in Linux.

The anti-windows rant was just hilarious - I mean, man, nobody likes windows, even those who use it (like me), but it has the established software, drivers and a wide range of pro tools, as opposed to a limited pool of pro tools and a bunch of freeware. Most people don't buy computers for their operating systems, they buy them for the software content.

Ardour - they claim it is 'pro tools or cubase like'. Well, it is if all you need is a very basic tape recorder style audio recorder. It lacks support for VST or AU plugins, has no MIDI, and very few frills but it would be sufficient for some people in the way that Audacity or Kristal v1 can be for windows freeware.

I actually like Linux, but until it has 100% functional versions of the pro audio stuff I like to use, such as Live, Cubase, Soundforge, Vegas and the like, not pale shareware imitations, then it can never be considered for pro audio work. I do however Ubuntu installed on my harddrive as a backup in case windows goes tits up (as it has a couple of times) and it is nice for web browsing and email. But that's about it.
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Post by adventurepants_ » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:22 am

leedsquietman wrote:What I don't get is why the OP felt he needed to say goodbye.

I don't remember him contributing anything significant and he won't be missed. Go to your EnergyXT and Renoise and be happy in Linux.

The anti-windows rant was just hilarious - I mean, man, nobody likes windows, even those who use it (like me), but it has the established software, drivers and a wide range of pro tools, as opposed to a limited pool of pro tools and a bunch of freeware. Most people don't buy computers for their operating systems, they buy them for the software content.

Ardour - they claim it is 'pro tools or cubase like'. Well, it is if all you need is a very basic tape recorder style audio recorder. It lacks support for VST or AU plugins, has no MIDI, and very few frills but it would be sufficient for some people in the way that Audacity or Kristal v1 can be for windows freeware.

I actually like Linux, but until it has 100% functional versions of the pro audio stuff I like to use, such as Live, Cubase, Soundforge, Vegas and the like, not pale shareware imitations, then it can never be considered for pro audio work. I do however Ubuntu installed on my harddrive as a backup in case windows goes tits up (as it has a couple of times) and it is nice for web browsing and email. But that's about it.
its just prick waving/trolling isnt it? he/she just wanted to wave his "superior" setup in our faces so we could all become green with envy at his/her turgid genitals.

i think Linux is great too, and use it for various applications, but I simply dont understand how using Linux is sticking it to Microsoft. An OS is such an empty concept by itself i dont really get how people form loving relationships with them.

Its just a tool, Ive never felt the need to express to strangers about how much i love a hammer.
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Post by Sibanger » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:24 am

So is the OP selling Live cheap? cause I know someone who wants to buy a cheap copy.

(As long as it's not a ripped version):roll:

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Post by rsaulo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:39 am

leedsquietman wrote:What I don't get is why the OP felt he needed to say goodbye.

I don't remember him contributing anything significant and he won't be missed. Go to your EnergyXT and Renoise and be happy in Linux.

The anti-windows rant was just hilarious - I mean, man, nobody likes windows, even those who use it (like me), but it has the established software, drivers and a wide range of pro tools, as opposed to a limited pool of pro tools and a bunch of freeware. Most people don't buy computers for their operating systems, they buy them for the software content.

Ardour - they claim it is 'pro tools or cubase like'. Well, it is if all you need is a very basic tape recorder style audio recorder. It lacks support for VST or AU plugins, has no MIDI, and very few frills but it would be sufficient for some people in the way that Audacity or Kristal v1 can be for windows freeware.

I actually like Linux, but until it has 100% functional versions of the pro audio stuff I like to use, such as Live, Cubase, Soundforge, Vegas and the like, not pale shareware imitations, then it can never be considered for pro audio work. I do however Ubuntu installed on my harddrive as a backup in case windows goes tits up (as it has a couple of times) and it is nice for web browsing and email. But that's about it.
The point here is not OPEN SOURCE AUDIO PROGRAMS, only a OPEN SOURCE OS with COMERCIAL LINUX PRO AUDIO APPS LIKE LIVE.

The fact here is that linux IS MORE STABLE THAN WINDOWS ...AND....MACOX. If somebody here does not agree, ask to IBM, SUN, ORACLE, global financial institutions, MAINFRAMES TODAY run Linux and 90% of all the server on the net runs on top of linux. The DESKTOP linux it´s a "problem", but nobory can tell Linux is INSTABLE, this is bullshit...

The question here is support for LIVE on linux, an STABLE OS, that HAVE TODAY pro COMERCIAL audio apps, and not have LIVE, I´ll like to see live on linux, and I PAY for it if abes support linux, but for instance I´ll use another piece of software, and maybe back to live in future or maybe another similiar to live app born to linux and I´ll forget live forever.

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Post by rsaulo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:50 am

xh9o wrote:
Machinesworking wrote:They don't, t the main thing is better tools just help to write songs quicker, they can't write the song for you.

well i said: inspiring. inspiring means supporting, and thats quite the opposite of taking all over. but taking over as much beaurocracy mouseclick work as possible can´t be a bad thing. and thats where - the modular - live is million lightyears ahead those old fashioned - timelined - sequencers. maybe its the problem of todays music production whose products have become very lame and predictable (for those few who know a difference between music and tits video featured imitation), that too much is done that old way while times around have changed.
because this type of thinking that we have 100456768234 new garbage tracks released every day on the net, this "musicians" running pirate windows, with apps like live simply forget totally the music concepts, they crop some samples(from existing music, of course) , put in clips on the session view, play clips randonly, save the work and say "OK, the track is GONE".

You are right xh9o, the old way of producing music is gone....... :wink:

I´m simply telling all in this post that I love Live, but I´m leaving live just because it´s not fit on my environment and I DO NOT WANT to pay for an software that not runs on Linux and I DO NOT WANT TO USE PIRATE SOFTWARE.

And, of course, when I finished my music school, making music was about concepts, not tools, if you can play an guitar, and have an TAPE RECORDER, you CAN MAKE A BETTER SONG than 1000000000 "new school" guys today with they CRACKED WINDOWS XP LIVE DAW´S...

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Post by rsaulo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:53 am

Machinesworking wrote:
On the original subject, Linux is looking better every day for music. I hope Live eventually gets a Linux port. I'm planning on moving over to Linux some day, and it would be cool if Live and the Suite moved with me! 8)
You get the point, my time to move to linux was 3 years ago, now I only have windows because LIVE, and searching for alternate solutions I cleared that I can do my music with others tools that SUPPORT LINUX TODAY and hope that abes can do it too in the future.

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Post by leedsquietman » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:16 pm

The advantages in the operating system are not really noticed by most users who just want to be able to use their DAW software and CAD programs or Microsoft Office (yes I know Open Office is good for free on Linux, but it doesn't have all the functionality).

I agree with you on pirated software too but there are people making music with legitimately purchased software on Windows too (as I am), as well as some kids and freeloaders ripping off bit torrent.

I hope Linux is more successful but having 6 zillion different distributions and not enough established, paid commercial software is what is holding it back. And of course, once that software starts to come, there will be people ripping it off on Linux too ...

The too much music out there argument is a fact but I don't see what this has to do with Linux. And yes, people can make better music on an old tape machine sometimes, and people can make bad music with cracks of Fruity Loops, but people can also make bad music with Ardour, Rosegarden or Renoise in Linux too ;)
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Post by rsaulo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:03 pm

leedsquietman wrote:The advantages in the operating system are not really noticed by most users who just want to be able to use their DAW software and CAD programs or Microsoft Office (yes I know Open Office is good for free on Linux, but it doesn't have all the functionality).

I agree with you on pirated software too but there are people making music with legitimately purchased software on Windows too (as I am), as well as some kids and freeloaders ripping off bit torrent.

I hope Linux is more successful but having 6 zillion different distributions and not enough established, paid commercial software is what is holding it back. And of course, once that software starts to come, there will be people ripping it off on Linux too ...

The too much music out there argument is a fact but I don't see what this has to do with Linux. And yes, people can make better music on an old tape machine sometimes, and people can make bad music with cracks of Fruity Loops, but people can also make bad music with Ardour, Rosegarden or Renoise in Linux too ;)
Yes!!!

That´s my point, wherever the tool you use there are bad musicians and good musicians, with any tool, having live does not make you a better musician, the same with Linux, mac, windows, Ardour, Resegarden, Renoise, Protools, etc

My point is that if you know how to make music with an peace of paper, the form that you transform the music in an MP3 or WAV format is about the tool with you are more confortable.

I´m a C++ and Java architect too and make an program is not related on what my primary IDE is eclipse or netbeans, vi or wherever, the important part is my "source code", that in case of music is the musical concept and arrange of my song, not the tool I use for "putting all together".

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Post by istlota » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:52 pm

[quote="mdk"]good luck. i also spend most of my time in linux except for running Live and other audio software.

I have got Live running under wine other stuff doesnt yet run under wine which i like using (SoundForge, CD Architect and loads of VST plugins)[/quote]

Hey, now that's interesting. But, damn, I threw away my XP disk [in a fit of rage] when I moved to my Mac Mini.

So, you are running Linux, and using Wine to run a Windows version of Live under Linux? How stable is Live with Wine? Do all its features work?

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Re: Shifting to LINUX, leaving ableton live....

Post by ddr400 » Fri May 29, 2009 6:42 am

Good news, guys )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Kernel

now is possible to run win32 applications in linux box as native )

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