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Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:59 am
by Michael Hatsis
eldar wrote:interpolate wrote:hmm.. I had trouble trying to get this to work tonight. Perhaps its because I'm using the wrong prefixes and don't know how to tell what a monome app's osc prefix is or perhaps because I'm using a mac. The only thing I was able to do was change the colors on my buttons.
None the less I think this is a step in the right direction and I'm going to continue to monitor the development. Hopefully it will get a bit easier to configure in the future.
same here, on XP though...

Well the OSC prefix is pretty important. Its basically how you comnnect to the app. kinda like if you send MIDI on the wrong channel, nothing happens. The applications will tell you the prefix in the documentation for that app.
check what the prefix is and type it in and press [enter].
also, there is a bit of a learning curve for these apps as they are kinda DIY ( but awesome! ) so not everything in the app is not super intuitive and bug free as we are used to. Id recommend checking out the monome forum. There are some very helpful people and good info about getting started with the monome ideology. also the monome wiki has lots of getting started info and lots of other info as well.
monome forum:
http://post.monome.org/
monome wiki
http://docs.monome.org/doku.php
Also, 9 times out of 10 there are getting started videos for the app you are trying to use on Vimeo /youtube
What apps are you trying to use?
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:00 am
by Michael Hatsis
oops dubbel post
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:15 am
by eldar
at the moment mlr 2.51 (also tried 2.27 and 7up).
in the drop down menus in "!include" i selected "USB Audio Device" for input and output (that's how the APC shows up in the Windows device manager and in Live as well).
these are also the only devices marked in Max' midi setup.
in Max i have a "OSC-route: no such object" message.
Thanks a lot for your efforts! Not really a problem if it doesn't work because just using the APC with Live has infinitely multiplied the infinite possibilites i already had in Live...how much is infinity times infinity? I'm going gaga but having fun, the APC rules...

Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:16 am
by john gordon
mike@TrackTeam Audio wrote:john gordon wrote:ive got 7 up working a little bit,but the top button all the way on the right isnt having any effect when i'm trying to change the seq.its almost like that button isnt working at all,cause it doesnt work with mlr either.does this make any sense?
Im not with the apc now so Ill check it out when i get home. So its all top buttons or just button 5 and 8 ( starting from the left...All was working fine for me.I could have effed something up when i cleaned up the patch for release..Ill look into it.
cool.i sent you a message.
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:25 am
by john gordon
eldar wrote:at the moment mlr 2.51 (also tried 2.27 and 7up).
in the drop down menus in "!include" i selected "USB Audio Device" for input and output (that's how the APC shows up in the Windows device manager and in Live as well).
these are also the only devices marked in Max' midi setup.
in Max i have a "OSC-route: no such object" message.
Thanks a lot for your efforts! Not really a problem if it doesn't work because just using the APC with Live has infinitely multiplied the infinite possibilites i already had in Live...how much is infinity times infinity? I'm going gaga but having fun, the APC rules...

try writing mlr in the prefix boxes.worked for me.now when i use 7up i write 7up in the prefix boxes and that works.
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:42 am
by eldar
john gordon wrote:eldar wrote:at the moment mlr 2.51 (also tried 2.27 and 7up).
in the drop down menus in "!include" i selected "USB Audio Device" for input and output (that's how the APC shows up in the Windows device manager and in Live as well).
these are also the only devices marked in Max' midi setup.
in Max i have a "OSC-route: no such object" message.
Thanks a lot for your efforts! Not really a problem if it doesn't work because just using the APC with Live has infinitely multiplied the infinite possibilites i already had in Live...how much is infinity times infinity? I'm going gaga but having fun, the APC rules...

try writing mlr in the prefix boxes.worked for me.now when i use 7up i write 7up in the prefix boxes and that works.
mlr is what it said originally (i only got one prefix box), doesn't help, thanks though!
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:45 am
by Michael Hatsis
eldar wrote:at the moment mlr 2.51 (also tried 2.27 and 7up).
in the drop down menus in "!include" i selected "USB Audio Device" for input and output (that's how the APC shows up in the Windows device manager and in Live as well).
these are also the only devices marked in Max' midi setup.
in Max i have a "OSC-route: no such object" message.
Thanks a lot for your efforts! Not really a problem if it doesn't work because just using the APC with Live has infinitely multiplied the infinite possibilites i already had in Live...how much is infinity times infinity? I'm going gaga but having fun, the APC rules...

ah...
did you move the monomulator patch from the folder it came in/ you need to have that OSC-route.mxo object in the same folder as the monomulator patch. it needs osc-route to work.
if so does that fix it?
yes MLR's prefix is mlr...
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:58 am
by eldar
i didn't move it, i tried to put a
copy of the file "OSC-route" into the same folder now, but the outcome is the same...
has anyone on XP gotten this to work or are you all mac-snobs, i mean mac-users, sorry!

Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:11 am
by Michael Hatsis
eldar wrote:i didn't move it, i tried to put a
copy of the file "OSC-route" into the same folder now, but the outcome is the same...
has anyone on XP gotten this to work or are you all mac-snobs, i mean mac-users, sorry!

I think i figured it out. I only added the osc-route for OS X. Windows cant read it.dOH!
try redownloading, i have added the needed windows files...
let me know if it works, if not, im pretty sure i know what to do to fix it.
Mike
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:15 am
by Tone Deft
FWIW I did the download, the unrar-ing using winrar (recommended by machinate over winzip for dealing with Mac-archives on XP.)
I got these errors. I did the download about 15 minutes ago.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\Icon_
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\._Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\._Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\._Icon_
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\Icon_
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\._Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\._Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\._Icon_
an Apple a day my ass!!!
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:32 am
by eldar
same error message here, but i think the important parts extracted ok...
no more osc-route error message, but it still doesn't work, everything's dark on the APC (apart from the color switching in your app)
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:19 am
by Michael Hatsis
and you typed in the correct OSC prefix?
did you read how to start MLR? Click the DAC button on the lower left of the master fader on the interface and all that jazz?
@Tone
Ill look into the zip stuff. thanks for letting me know.
Mike
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:29 am
by eldar
still not hearing anything but stuff is blinking, so from now on it's probably user error...
gonna keep trying, thanks a lot!
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:45 am
by eldar
mmmmhhh, no luck using mlr 2.51 (i am loading the file "_mlr.mxb". prefix is mlr.
i get 4 different "can't find sliderdefault..." and 4 "grooveduck2: no such object" messages.
as soon as i press the dac button i get LOTS of "% osc route: pattern did not match any prefixes" messages.
anyway, gotta get some sleep now...
Re: Monome Emulator for APC40 - free fun for you APC users!
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:22 pm
by Michael Hatsis
Tone Deft wrote:FWIW I did the download, the unrar-ing using winrar (recommended by machinate over winzip for dealing with Mac-archives on XP.)
I got these errors. I did the download about 15 minutes ago.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\Icon_
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\._Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\._Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\ChooseInputs\Monomulator.app\._Icon_
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\Icon_
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Cannot create Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\._Icon
! The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect.
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Attempting to correct the invalid file name
! C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Local Settings\Temp\Monomulator0.9.zip: Renaming Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\._Icon
to Monomulator0.9\Monomulator PadKontrol_0.91\Monomulator_OS X\Monomulator.app\._Icon_
an Apple a day my ass!!!
wierd..
don't you have a monome anyway. just use that
so, I just rezipped everything up as two seperate archives. so you only have to unzip the AP stuff- which didn't look like it gave you a problem. redownload and lemme know if she unzips properly ( APC stuff )
Mike