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Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:54 pm
by Android Bishop

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:57 pm
by Poster
nebulae wrote:Fueling the fire: If tarnce is so bad, then why does it pack 10s of thousands in stadiums, whereas IDM is for reject clubs in seedy Berlin nerd hangouts?
8O
you do know the difference between art and brainless entertainment dont you?


or.. are you serious.. at all?

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:17 pm
by beatpoet
lol

Bet this one goes 10 pages

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:23 pm
by leedsquietman
I was being ironic earlier / borderline trolling BTW for anyone who misunderstood me :idea:

although the part about tarnce - no regrets about that !!

FDM - Failed dance music :lol: I EXCEL at that :P

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:30 pm
by Spikee
You could dance to this. Well, nod your head anyway. But then again, I think this is what they meant when they coined the phrase IDM...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYd-IeO6U6I

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:38 pm
by hurlingdervish
Spikee wrote:You could dance to this. Well, nod your head anyway. But then again, I think this is what they meant when they coined the phrase IDM...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYd-IeO6U6I
the thing is autechre and aphex twin are beyond genres

IDM was definitely not coined by the experts, they are too busy making music to worry about what genre it is

so to make up a genre for this experimental music is ironic

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:42 pm
by knotkranky

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:09 pm
by Spikee
hurlingdervish wrote:
Spikee wrote:You could dance to this. Well, nod your head anyway. But then again, I think this is what they meant when they coined the phrase IDM...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYd-IeO6U6I
the thing is autechre and aphex twin are beyond genres

IDM was definitely not coined by the experts, they are too busy making music to worry about what genre it is

so to make up a genre for this experimental music is ironic
Well the whole thing is sort of a self-congratulatory pile of wank. Having an IDM genre pretty much says that whatever else that doesn't fall into this category is stupid dance music, which is of course rubbish. Take BT's "Movement In Still Life" (UK and Kong Kong releases only, not the American turd) for example -- for as cheesy as that album was, the stutters and just overall technical prowess of that album are way too advanced to be considered unintelligent. IMO.

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:24 pm
by abort
If it were any other genre would you be as cold.

genre pointing is so stupid unless your trying to learn it.

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:25 pm
by Spikee
nebulae wrote:Fueling the fire: If tarnce is so bad, then why does it pack 10s of thousands in stadiums, whereas IDM is for reject clubs in seedy Berlin nerd hangouts?
No one ever said that the majority had more of a taste for music than the people in seedy Berlin nerd hangouts. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to go as far as assert the idea that the majority doesn't really study music the way that the minority do that listen to "IDM". It's kinda like this -- grab 100 people to look at "The Garden Of Earthly Delights" and 15 people will point out nuances like the man with the bird head, and 3 will be able to tell you that it was Bosch's finest triptych, or how wonderful the portrayal of God presenting Eve to Adam was. The other 85 will give you stock answers like how pretty (or lame) the picture is and not really reflect on it at all.

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:30 pm
by john doe by choice
good troll thread

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 pm
by nebulae
^ but what if those 85 looked at The Millennium whilst listening to Armin's ASOT 274, specifically when Darren Tate's "Hold Me Till The End (Truly Deeply Dub)"?

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:32 pm
by nebulae
john doe by choice wrote:good troll thread
Duh, it took someone 4 pages to figure this out? :lol:

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:41 pm
by hurlingdervish
nebulae wrote:
john doe by choice wrote:good troll thread
Duh, it took someone 4 pages to figure this out? :lol:
you are an attorney you get paid to troll.

Re: IDM: Not Intelligent, Can't Dance To It, Arguably Not Music

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:42 pm
by Spikee
nebulae wrote:^ but what if those 85 looked at The Millennium whilst listening to Armin's ASOT 274, specifically when Darren Tate's "Hold Me Till The End (Truly Deeply Dub)"?
Probably nothing noteworthy would happen.