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Check out Cardopusher. He used to make pretty hectic breakcore but now concentrates on dubstep and his production has a bit of everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwzlkhU33Ek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LX_eeFwyMI

Also have a listen to Akira Kiteshi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN-SMV3ZyqU

Ya both the dudes in EOTO are the drummers from String Cheese Incident, totally not like this but worth checking out if you're into jam bands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG0kzjpp8dA

EOTO @ Apple store, thought that was pretty interesting.

First off, I really thought I would have been the last person in the world to enjoy dubstep but I do. I love progressive house and other “slower” genres. However, ever since I heard Rusko’s essential mix and more recently Caspa’s I have been corrupted. I love dubstep now!!

My prediction is that dubstep like progressive house, trance, and D&B is a fad that will die down but stick around for eternity just on a lower level. If you think about it, every genre of music starts as a fad and then blends into the background as a legitimate music type.

Another prediction of mine, is that R&B and more specifically Hip Hop and Rap will take elements of dubstep (i.e. wobble) and it will become the “new sound”. Of course, its going to be the wobble tamed down but will be the wobble no less. It’s got that perfect “dirty” or ”grimy” feel that those genres look for. You can already begin to see elements of it coming up, it’s just a matter of time.

Like most people here, anytime I show dubstep to people they have these reactions but I keep telling them they have to give it a chance. After all, there is beauty in simplicity!!

you all are making me really want to go out tonight..

any Austin folks going to hit up weight at plush tonight?

Bizon wrote: Another prediction of mine, is that R&B and more specifically Hip Hop and Rap will take elements of dubstep (i.e. wobble) and it will become the “new sound”. Of course, its going to be the wobble tamed down but will be the wobble no less. It’s got that perfect “dirty” or ”grimy” feel that those genres look for. You can already begin to see elements of it coming up, it’s just a matter of time.

hehe, you're late buddy. it's already here, and it's called WONKY!

WebSite! wrote:

Bizon wrote: Another prediction of mine, is that R&B and more specifically Hip Hop and Rap will take elements of dubstep (i.e. wobble) and it will become the “new sound”. Of course, its going to be the wobble tamed down but will be the wobble no less. It’s got that perfect “dirty” or ”grimy” feel that those genres look for. You can already begin to see elements of it coming up, it’s just a matter of time.

hehe, you're late buddy. it's already here, and it's called WONKY!

Your right, it has been around for a couple of years but has yet to make it into the mainstream. I am talking about the 50 cents, Eminems, Timbalands, Swiss beats', and so on. Those are the guys that drive the mainstream of that genre and they have not clued in yet, although they usually tend to be a couple of years behind. Or better yet, it takes the average listener a few years to get accustomed to hearing the sound.

funky shit wrote:Here in ireland its not popular at all..

Absolute bullshit.
Confess to being a complete shite-hawk please, and tell everyone you were talking out your mucky bunghole when you made such a grotesquely incorrect sweeping statement.

I mean seriously.

number 1:
wonky is a shit name. its basically revived trip hop, downtempo, a bit unnecessary to add yet another sub genre
number 2:
wonky will never reach mainstream, however, the aggressive wobble stuff is on its way. Snoop did a dub song, Lil Jon is working with Diplo on one, and Xzibit is supposed to be working on one
to quote lil jon "put on that dub shit! its that shit that makes you want to punch someone in the face!!"

hurlingdervish wrote:number 1:
wonky is a shit name.

i couldn't agree more.

nowtime wrote:I'm a bit confused by what is now called dubstep.

Exactly 2 years ago i got turned on to "dubstep." It was the coolest shit I had heard. From what I can remember, it combined Jamaican dub elements, the wobble bass (and dub riddim bass) and what I would call a double-time feel. Must have been about 150-170 bpm. A big thing that I loved about it was the fast, yang, double-time percussive feel but it was all on top of this half-time 75-85bpm pulse (the skank?) which you could move your hips and body to (dance!) in a sexy kinda way.

I can't seem to find this style of dubstep. Now all I hear is this industrial, dark, drumnbassy stuff.

Anyone know what I'm taking about?

I agree. It all sounded more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVKboRPgu0U


Now this is knockin'!!!!!!!

Crazy Wobble BASS!!!!!

WebSite! wrote:BASS!

Yup, i agree with you~~!

Bizon wrote:

WebSite! wrote:

Bizon wrote: Another prediction of mine, is that R&B and more specifically Hip Hop and Rap will take elements of dubstep (i.e. wobble) and it will become the “new sound”. Of course, its going to be the wobble tamed down but will be the wobble no less. It’s got that perfect “dirty” or ”grimy” feel that those genres look for. You can already begin to see elements of it coming up, it’s just a matter of time.

hehe, you're late buddy. it's already here, and it's called WONKY!

Your right, it has been around for a couple of years but has yet to make it into the mainstream. I am talking about the 50 cents, Eminems, Timbalands, Swiss beats', and so on. Those are the guys that drive the mainstream of that genre and they have not clued in yet, although they usually tend to be a couple of years behind. Or better yet, it takes the average listener a few years to get accustomed to hearing the sound.

You might want to look at UK stuff then. Dubstep has been taking elements from stuff like Grime as part of the genre's sound.

hurlingdervish wrote:but this is TWO step. you dont land on each beat. its faster so you can land on every other

and not everyone at dubstep nights are ket heads, most aren't

I'd say there's no defined way you have to dance to dubstep, like any form of music, but it is definitely the two step feel which is the main driving force behind dubstep.

VERY GOOD dubstep, in my opinion, is the music which combines the slow head-banging effect of the half-time drum beat with an overlapping intricate 4/4 feel which intertwines rhythmically and energy-wise with the slower stuff, which results in an amazing dancing experience where you are both going at it at a 140bpm speed whilst also hitting those half-time snare beats. So you are basically doing two dances at once. It's fucking insane.

This is music for people who are really into dancing, imo.

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funky shit wrote:Here in ireland its not popular at all..

Absolute bullshit.
Confess to being a complete shite-hawk please, and tell everyone you were talking out your mucky bunghole when you made such a grotesquely incorrect sweeping statement.

I mean seriously.

confess to being an ignorant prick before i even ask you to provide evidence of popular dubstep scenes/nights in ireland.