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..in the meantime

free with midi support :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuseScore

the official site is currently down (http://musescore.org/)
but you can still get it:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mscore/

I think there's maximum 5% of Live's users that can read a score. For the rest notation is useless. Live is about performance and intuitive drag and drop to get musical elements together. Not about scoring or other traditional ways to compose. If Abes introduce scoring they would contradict the whole so far concept.

I don't think notation would break with the concept, and it doesn't need to be that detailed like Sibelius or Finale.
I'm imagining a window you can switch on and off. That would be great. Would save me a lot of time fiddling with the piano roll.

+1!

and a score editor should/would be able to show more than one track simultaniously.
that´s one of the most missed features when using live for producing:

comparing tracks and copy single or multiple notes from one to the other with visual support!

Hi folks,

The request for notation is definitely known and on our list of considerations.

Best,

Personally I like notation, but see no use for it in Live.
I'm also more fond of DAW speak than notation though, for editing etc.
An Event Editor would be much more useful than notation to me.
Give me SysEx, the ability to break off the Piano Roll onto another screen, and various other 'workflow that we have now' improvements first.
Follow Actions are where I want development to go.

seeing that stuff like notation is even 'considered' right now makes me really loosing my faith that development will move into the right direction, i mean there is so much basic stuff to be sorted before that.

Dennis DeSantis wrote:Hi folks,

The request for notation is definitely known and on our list of considerations.

Best,

Dennis, for what it's worth, I WOULD like to see notation in Live...

...but with certain limits. It should be visible in the same place as the MIDI editor, of course, but only one stave at a time. Zoomable and pannable in exactly the same way as the MIDI view, and a blank 4-bar clip would show up as an empty stave with 4 clean bars to write in.

But I would agree it's not a priority, and I would never want to see anything more than a single-stave view purely as an alternative editing method.

SubFunk wrote:seeing that stuff like notation is even 'considered' right now makes me really loosing my faith that development will move into the right direction, i mean there is so much basic stuff to be sorted before that.

We keep track of and consider every user request.

Best,

ciw wrote:I'm not scared of sheet music but I'd rather not pay for a feature that allows printing the same notes in an inferior manner for the task at hand.

That's because you probably don't work with musicians. Once you start composing music where you want some parts played live with real instruments by someone else and start inviting people to perform live solos for you, they will ask you for sheets. Also, Live isn't about electronic music only.

Andrejs

I often write music using Finale and then export MIDI which I import to Live.

In fact, the one feature I wish Live would have is the ability to export multiple MIDI clips (I'd be happy with an entire scene, for example) into a single MIDI file, one clip per MIDI channel.

For sheet music - export midi, drop into your favorite notation program.

Done.

Don't see why live needs this when there already are loads of ways of doing that.

tw1nstates wrote:For sheet music - export midi, drop into your favorite notation program.

Done.

Don't see why live needs this when there already are loads of ways of doing that.

1. What is your free favorite notation program? I found nothing suitable when I searched [for Mac].

2. As far as I am aware, it is only possible to export a single MIDI track, but not the whole arrangement.

3. Are you sure complex MIDI arrangements will be correctly exported and imported into an external app?

Andrejs

3dot... wrote:..in the meantime

free ...with midi support :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuseScore

the official site is currently down (http://musescore.org/)
but you can still get it:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mscore/

http://musescore.org/

and this is great... http://www.noteflight.com/login

..both are cross-platform.. both import/export midi