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H20nly wrote:You see the problems they're starting to cause?? The Landwhale's Mac crashed his friend's PC...

its all downhill...

The Landwhale wrote:Alright, I could be wrong here, but I'm willing to wager that you had more than 3 crashes from Live in a 5-year period, regardless of what platform/hardware you're using.
That sounds like either an exaggeration, straight bullshit, or you did not open Live very often in that 5 year period.

Guess again friend. Not wanting to go round and round with you on this, but it is no exaggeration for me to say I had very very few crashes until Live v8. Maybe not 3 exactly, maybe 2 or 5, but that's it. Used Live nearly every single day, pushing it hard much of the time. No crashes. Never had a single crash during a performance. It amazed me too! Live v2-v7 on a PC was the most rock-solid software I've ever used, period (never used v1).

IP wrote:the hole is a hole no matter how many fall in.

we may have many more reports soon as the problem (known from some days after release date ... and it is 18 of October) has no fix yet i think!

Users of the new Apple operating system Snow Leopard are experiencing massive data losses when logging into their machines under a guest account.

yes it is a huge bug. sorry.

It is not about a virus, attacks, hacks etc.

It is just an apple bug by apple .

Somebody call Glenn Beck. I bet Obama had something to do with Snow Leopard.

And you think there isn't a fix, but 30 seconds of research would reveal developers are already testing the fix. An update (10.6.2) can be expected any moment.
Not sure what prompted you to jump on the first bit of news you could mold into an argument, but I'm looking forward to the next mac issue.

Fortunately, Mac users who don't upgrade straight away will never miss the news of a new Trojan or a major bug. So thank you very much

ethios4 wrote:

The Landwhale wrote:Alright, I could be wrong here, but I'm willing to wager that you had more than 3 crashes from Live in a 5-year period, regardless of what platform/hardware you're using.
That sounds like either an exaggeration, straight bullshit, or you did not open Live very often in that 5 year period.

Guess again friend. Not wanting to go round and round with you on this, but it is no exaggeration for me to say I had very very few crashes until Live v8. Maybe not 3 exactly, maybe 2 or 5, but that's it. Used Live nearly every single day, pushing it hard much of the time. No crashes. Never had a single crash during a performance. It amazed me too! Live v2-v7 on a PC was the most rock-solid software I've ever used, period (never used v1).

Well, that's a pretty impressive track record! Live was super stable up until 6 for me, I actually started using Live at version 2 as well, on a *gasp* PC!

Maybe Live is the source of all our problems, let's pick on Live now!

I love the comments saying Windows is uninspiring. Does Ableton look more inspiring on OSX? I thought it looked and sounded the same.

4+ year Mac user. My Powerbook + Tiger + Live 4 and 5 was rock solid. Maybe crashed once in 2+ years.

Using my Macbook Pro with Leopard just seems to get more and more buggy, both with Live and without. (minimal to no plugins). Sooooo many crashes and weirdness. Of course the whole world has gotten a bit weirder so I don't know if it's all Apples fault!

I hope Landwhale is right about Snow.

IP wrote:the hole is a hole no matter how many fall in.
yes it is a huge bug. sorry.

It is not about a virus, attacks, hacks etc.

It is just an apple bug by apple .

3.5 million macs sold last quarter, and 100 cases. Remember, this is just brand new computers and not copies of Snow Leopard sold to people already owning a mac. I fail to see less than 100 users affected as a major bug. Like I said, I'm not downplaying the bug, just putting perspective on it. That's far less than 1 in 35,000 users affected.

Anybody who cares about their files should back up before major instals like operating systems IMO. Just good practice.