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Mostly it comes down to the quality of the Impulses rather than the host convolution reverb. One of the reasons Altiverb costs so much is that it has some superb Impulses recorded in top locations throughout the World, something which cost the maker a pretty penny to do.

What you pay extra for is some extra EQ filtering, or modulation FX built in, stuff which is useful but not a deal breaker, as you can always just add EQ plugins or mod FX next in the FX Chain.

The Reverberate convolution reverb seems to offer a lot for it's money, it handles true stereo input too, a lot of reverbs sum to mono and then output in stereo, which can give a different audible result. SIR2 is very good, but costs an extra 80-90 dollars and I'm not sure it's worth paying the extra cash - it comes with more Impulses, but when you can download real quality impulses such as the Acousticas Bricasti M7 impulses for free (and some great stuff from the blog which stutter published), throw those into Reverberate and you can save yourself some dough.

I mostly use Cubase 5's convolution reverb plugin Reverence with the Bricasti or other Impulse samples (some of the native Reverence impulses are good too, such as LA Studio) as I tend to mix with Cubase. I still find a use for algorithmic reverbs too. I tend to layer things, I often have at least 3, sometimes as many as 6 reverbs stacked up in a mix. People with Logic can use the Impulses (Bricasti M7 and stutters list with Lexicon, Yamaha SPX and more) in Space Designer to great effect.

SIR2 is the favourite of Sound On Sound mix rescue guy Mike Senior. Voxengo's Pristine Space (licensed to Sonar as 'Perfect Space'), Reverberate, Altiverb, are all very good ones I've used in other people's studios.

Angstrom wrote:nah, they don't do that.

the compressor is called "compressor"
the limiter is called "limiter"
the flanger is called "flanger"
The analog synth is called Analog
the Vocoder is called vocoder
etc etc

A new reverb would be called "Reverb"
or if they are feeling wildly exuberant "Reverb 2"

But they don't do part I and part II of things anymore! They stopped that by joining compressor I and II together.
And your list is leaving out some very important one:
-Operator (not called FM!)
-Tension (Not called String!)
-Electric (Not called Electric Piano!)

So it could be called "Space". Or "Convolution" is the other one I'd agree with. Leaning towards the former.

glitchrock-buddha wrote:

Angstrom wrote:nah, they don't do that.

the compressor is called "compressor"
the limiter is called "limiter"
the flanger is called "flanger"
The analog synth is called Analog
the Vocoder is called vocoder
etc etc

A new reverb would be called "Reverb"
or if they are feeling wildly exuberant "Reverb 2"

But they don't do part I and part II of things anymore! They stopped that by joining compressor I and II together.
And your list is leaving out some very important one:
-Operator (not called FM!)
-Tension (Not called String!)
-Electric (Not called Electric Piano!)

So it could be called "Space". Or "Convolution" is the other one I'd agree with. Leaning towards the former.

I guess it depends on dev. costs and whether they decide it should be a whole new plug-in or just an improvement on Reverb.... I tend to think the latter

Good call on the M7 impulses, Leeds! I'm with SubFunk in thinking that the LAConvolver/M7 impulse set combination is probably going to be my go-to reverb unit for awhile. I think one would have a hard time finding much better quality than this at any price, much less for free...

I just noticed on kvr about some new Bricasti M7 Impulse Responses that are supposed to be even better. The other ones where so awesome I thought I'd pass this along.

http://www.samplicity.com/bricasti-m7-i ... responses/

Thanks for sharing, this is the kind of thing which makes the forum a productive place.

Will have to try those out later ...