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Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:33 pm
by ze2be
glitchrock-buddha wrote:It was a terrible explanation of additive synthesis. He basically explained additive synthesis as if it were subtractive synthesis and mentioned there were a bunch of sine waves. And it super annoying. I'm not usually bothered by a persons voice in a tutorial, but I just wished he'd speak like an adult talking to another adult.
Haha! Come on, look at it with some humor man. ;)
I like silly demo people much more then uptight, sour and dry. OK, maybe it was a crappy additive synthesis explanation, but when it came down to how to operate the synth, I kind of felt I got most of it just by watching the video. Much more so then NIs dudstep trailer bonanza video. anywayzzz

@beat me: Thats my thought as well. It might be a great versatile bass synth.

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:27 pm
by Liam
Razor is a CPU hog it seems. Many of the 'Poly' voices are limited to just 3 notes polyphony.

This is on my dusl core PC so I will need to install on my quad core PC soon to compare.

Many very useful sounds and lots of exploring.

Love the visual displays.

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:22 pm
by jellycaster
does anyone else have anything to report re CPU usage? it would seem that with all the partials, and swanky graphic diplay, it might be quite intensive?

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:29 pm
by DRStudio
Torley has put out a bunch of nice videos where he covers pretty much all the presets of Razor. Worth watching.

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 1 - Bass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kBkxTG4dXU

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 2 - Leads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXvupcKnNF0

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 3 - Pads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u_EIiuyuQc

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 4 - Keys & Bells
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfrQo9o_L0A

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 5 - SFX & Percussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8Nq0TzzlGE

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 6 - Soundscapes and Sequences
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFKJa-Esp5E

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 7 - Vocoder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhBfAr6UPfY

PROJECT PRESET - Native Instruments Razor 8 - Errorsmith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSPPSE_sP0I

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:01 pm
by razorblade
Now I remember why I liked my old K5 so much....

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:28 pm
by Tweaking Knobs
beats me wrote:Had a $29 NI discount coupon so done and done.

It's a serious dubstep machine. :P

ha! thanx for remembering me about those, gonna get it later ! ;-)

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:05 pm
by errorsmith
Liam wrote: Many of the 'Poly' voices are limited to just 3 notes polyphony.
Hi there,

as the developer of razor i would to comment on this. I hope that is ok.

Razor is actually 6 voice polyphonic.

You referring to the 'Voice Limit' setting. If set to 3 the numbers of voices are reduced in case you play keys below 100 Hz. That is to safe CPU consumption.

This should not be a big limitation as polyphonic playing happends normally in the mid keyrange.

all the best,

erik

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:09 pm
by razorblade
Nice Job, Erik!

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:10 pm
by agent314
Listening to the Torley preset video, this thing actually has a lot more versatility than the demo trailer thing suggests. A lot more useful stuff than just wobblebass and filter sweeps.

NI did themselves a disservice by making the demo so 'LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN WOBBLE WITH IT!', IMO

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:21 pm
by Liam
razorblade wrote:Now I remember why I liked my old K5 so much....
I have a K5 and a K5M but they are both in storage somewhere. The K5 keyboard lost its responsiveness. One day...

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:37 pm
by DRStudio
agent314 wrote:Listening to the Torley preset video, this thing actually has a lot more versatility than the demo trailer thing suggests. A lot more useful stuff than just wobblebass and filter sweeps.

NI did themselves a disservice by making the demo so 'LOOK AT HOW YOU CAN WOBBLE WITH IT!', IMO
Agree! Was listening to the pads on Torley's video and i'm sold out already. I like NI's videos in general, but yeah, i wasn't that much interested when i saw their video also.

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:00 pm
by agent314
Any word yet on the CPU use? I'm tempted to get Razor now after hearing it in action.

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:35 pm
by estevan carlos benson
Additive synthesis is severely under utilized. I remember the old Kawai K5 from a decade ago. I had hoped it would make a bigger splash. We've been using FM for too long.

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:57 am
by Pinnipeds
Looks really cool but could I use it as a VST inside of Live?

I'm looking at either Razor or Operator, any help?

Re: NI's new synth - Razor

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:01 am
by Rationalizer
Pinnipeds wrote:Looks really cool but could I use it as a VST inside of Live?
You have to use it with Reaktor 5.5 or Reaktor Player (free from NI's website).