APC40 vs. iPad

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by perplex » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:33 pm

H20nly wrote:
perplex wrote: i fail to see the reason
There is no doubt.
That you have no point

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by perplex » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:52 pm

LOL brb im about to go DJ blindfolded lol

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by H20nly » Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:56 pm

8O wow. you must be the only soul on the whole forum who has never seen the inside of smokey, dark club with a strobe going.

don't worry, you'll be of drinking age soon. :D

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by perplex » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:15 pm

H20nly wrote:8O wow. you must be the only soul on the whole forum who has never seen the inside of smokey, dark club with a strobe going.

don't worry, you'll be of drinking age soon. :D

keep in touch.
Sorry I don't DJ children's power ranger strobe fests. lmao
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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:24 pm

perplex wrote:why would you try to locate something with your eyes closed? i fail to see the reason
when fine tuning a mix I find I get to the right setting if I can disassociate my eyes reading a setting from what my ears are hearing.

of course people talk about these things as if we're all very serious DJs and performers playing Wembley, in those cases you have to keep your head up to wink at the hot chicks in the front row and to read the audience so you can drop the break at just the right moment. if you're playing in a band it's good advice to keep eye contact with your bandmates. watching someone on stage that looks like they're checking e-mail is boring as hell. audiences want eye contact, they want to see that you're tweaking controls.


I flipped a coin, today I'm pro iPad.

another thing people are overlooking is that with an iPad you can choose from a variety of interfaces and I assume there's an app that lets you lay out your own controls. with an APC you have one singular configuration and probably have controls that you won't use.
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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by ze2be » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:18 am

"Ignorence makes blind, blindness is ignorant!"
Ok. So how would a blind person operate an iPad?

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by beats me » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:36 am

ze2be wrote: Ok. So how would a blind person operate an iPad?
Blind people have repetitive spacial recognition that seeing people could only dream of. With a little practice of moving their fingers on the screen and hearing what happens I'm sure the results would be quite impressive.

Just sayin'

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by perplex » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:18 am

well actually there are braille overlays for the iPad. Im sure if it came down to it, it wouldn't be so hard to make something simliar for iPad controller apps.

Like screen protectors with raised bumps that tell you where a slider, knob, or whatever is.

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by ze2be » Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:56 am

And what about sound quality, can the APC really come close to the Pro`ness of the iPad?

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by Donnie » Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:36 pm

Personally, im waiting for the day when touch screen devices feature raised membranes with a tactile feel that changes with whats on the display. Then I can talk about getting serious with touchscreens live.

LOL at "why would you want to play with your eyes closed". Seriously, why would you want to play any instrument without staring directly at it the whole time?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by Greeg » Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:48 pm

perplex wrote: What's good about most apps on the iPad. is that once your finger lands on a slider/knob, you can control it from anywhere on the screen as long as your finger remains on the screen the whole time. So the whole, "you don't have to look at the knob" debate is meh.
Not really :)

Still, it's painful compared to hardware and you can't change it. That's the big minus of every, currently available touchscreen - you can't "feel it".

If you need to do many things, on different controllers quick, the requirement to constantly look on touchscreen is just a one big misunderstanding.

Touchscreen is more absorbing than 2-3 other hardware controllers you know in your setup.

I'm not bashing ipad (maybe a little bit) - I just hope that the technology will be improved and somehow they combine best of two worlds - displaying any combination of knobs/sliders on the screen and compact size + hardware feeling. For DJing ie. Serato is that kind of thing - combined old good vinyl with digital technology. I hope that touchscreens technology will be improved - at the moment it's "not there"
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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by H20nly » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:01 pm

Tone Deft wrote:I flipped a coin, today I'm pro iPad.
me too. it was tails.


so today there's no fathoming why anyone would want to peel their retinas, let alone their fingers, off their eyePad. i can't imagine that an electronic musician (or any other musician) would want to look any anything else. having your face glued to a 9.7" display is the way to go! best EVER!

EVER!

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by beats me » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:15 pm

If you’re tweaking your set that much during a performance then your set is probably pretty annoying to the listener.

And I just did a low tech test of placing some small colored post-it’s on a piece of paper and drew some colored lines and shockingly I was able to put my fingers accurately on the different sections without staring directly at it. I’d imagine a backlit screen would yield similar results. But also I don’t perform with a giant animal head helmet on my head which would probably be an issue. So I don’t recommend an iPad for those of you who do that.

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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by H20nly » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:19 pm

^ and there you have it. even covered in Post-it notes, the eyePad is still the best device in the world. in fact, because Post-it notes have covered an eyePad... they're even better now too!


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Re: APC40 vs. iPad

Post by perplex » Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:37 pm

Donnie wrote:Personally, im waiting for the day when touch screen devices feature raised membranes with a tactile feel that changes with whats on the display. Then I can talk about getting serious with touchscreens live.

LOL at "why would you want to play with your eyes closed". Seriously, why would you want to play any instrument without staring directly at it the whole time?!?! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Who said stare directly at it? unless you are steve wonder, why do you need your eyes "closed"? are you serious man cmon lmfao
beats me wrote:If you’re tweaking your set that much during a performance then your set is probably pretty annoying to the listener.

And I just did a low tech test of placing some small colored post-it’s on a piece of paper and drew some colored lines and shockingly I was able to put my fingers accurately on the different sections without staring directly at it. I’d imagine a backlit screen would yield similar results. But also I don’t perform with a giant animal head helmet on my head which would probably be an issue. So I don’t recommend an iPad for those of you who do that.
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