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Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:59 pm
by PHY6
ansolas wrote:How about using something like this:
http://www.u-he.com/scripting/Arprestrictor.php
?
This is for global tuning. Some instruments are not that easy to set global tuning.
But thanks for the link...could be useful.

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:40 pm
by ansolas
PHY6 wrote:
ansolas wrote:How about using something like this:
http://www.u-he.com/scripting/Arprestrictor.php
?
This is for global tuning. Some instruments are not that easy to set global tuning.
But thanks for the link...could be useful.
This is for Synths which support tun files such as Zebra.
It allows you to freely tune each key so that you even can play it polyphon (with pitchbend this would be monophon)

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:48 pm
by PHY6
I know about tuning files...but this serves another purpose ;)

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:58 pm
by ansolas
PHY6 wrote:I know about tuning files...but this serves another purpose ;)
I dont think so.
You want to retune a Synth so that you can use something like this:
http://www.planetware.de/tune_in/Venus.html
Ergo just Retune eg Zebra's a1 to :
221,23 Hz = A (a1 = 442,5 Hz / 440 Hz + 9,6 cent)

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:24 am
by PHY6
That is global tuning, that means the whole octave is changed to have a1 @ 442,5 hz.
Some synths have mastertuning, but for those who haven't..like Lives instruments, this could be useful.

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:34 am
by ansolas
PHY6 wrote:That is global tuning, that means the whole octave is changed to have a1 @ 442,5 hz.
Some synths have mastertuning, but for those who haven't..like Lives instruments, this could be useful.
Nope that is not global tuning since you can tune each key of one octave by its own !
That allows you to have 12 individual frequencies.

Or what do you mean by global tuning ?
I understand global tuning like a master tune of a synth which is by default 440Hz.
If you retune it to 432Hz all other keys will also be shifted.
However with individual tuning you can tune each key by its own.
12 individual frequencies should be enough for most planetary or even molecular tunings , no ?
I apologize if I understood something wrong, just trying to help.

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The only downside appears is when you need two similar keys of different octaves to be tuned slightly different.
For this you need to workaround by using a higher key (and detune it up or down to the desired tuning) or use another Synth.

btw this feature is built into Logic.
It has a global retune single key tuning as well as Hermode tuning, so that you can retune all synths,
even those who do not support theses tuning files.

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Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:59 pm
by PHY6
Global tuning = Mastertuning
That's what this device is for.

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:28 pm
by ansolas
PHY6 wrote:Global tuning = Mastertuning
That's what this device is for.
Which device?
Mastertuning would affect each key.
If you increase the mastertuning by 10 cents all keys would get 10 cents added.
This is not the case when you use tuning files.
With a tuning-file you could add just 10 cents for ONE key, eg a
Thats the difference

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 11:53 am
by PHY6
Pffff, you repeat the same thing over and over...I'll stop answering, as this is going nowhere...have a nice weekend ;)

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 12:41 pm
by ansolas
PHY6 wrote:Pffff, you repeat the same thing over and over...I'll stop answering, as this is going nowhere...have a nice weekend ;)
Yeah I repeat over and over since you don't seam to understand the difference even after explaining it over and over again and ito fully depth.
:roll:
... never mind , have a nice day, I stop watching this thread.

Re: Moleculary tunings in cent steps

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:46 pm
by PHY6
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Yeah I repeat over and over since you don't seam to understand the difference even after explaining it over and over again and ito fully depth.
:roll:
... never mind , have a nice day, I stop watching this thread.[/quote]

I don't understand ?



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