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Here is a tip.

If your friend is a female, make sure they dress as high profile as effing profile. Chest plunging dress, amazing hair and make-up. The whole works.

Because aside from sounding great, the other 50% of djing is image. That means pretending to cue tracks on genuine turntables, doing Jesus poses during breakdowns, showing people you know how to rock to the beats.

For me personally, none of that shit matters. As long as the track selection is put into an interesting context, you could dj off your phone for all I care.

(Oh, but really. Don't be afraid of the sync button. Just be afraid of not realizing the sound of being out of sync!)

102455 wrote:

Ajacky wrote:by general opinion in the DJ community

Which DJ community is that then? Radio DJs, mobile DJs, or only club DJs? Which country? Which age group?

In the circles I move in, Virtual DJ is the most popular software.

Ajacky wrote:more likely to be seen in clubs or festivals.

That's how you decide which software is best? Because you saw it in a club, or saw a "big name" using it? Have you not heard of advertising? Product placement?

Lots of people buy Pioneer products because they saw a "celebrity DJ" using it. The celebrity who was probably either paid by Pioneer or offered a freebie for their services. I decide what I like by actually trying the products out and making a decision based on whether it meets my needs, not because DJ Butt Face uses it.

Ajacky wrote:Serato and Traktor definitely have a stronger assortment of controllers

OK so let's do some stats here. You list how many controllers are supported by Serato & how many are supported by Traktor, I'll list the ones for VDJ.

Bro, why so hostile? Relax. It's just a program and these are just opinions. You're arguing for VDJ like it's your long lost child or something. Chill out man.

Also, Traktor and the Native Instrument controllers use HID rather than MIDI so the integration is much tighter, resolution much better and just generally feels (and is) superior.

Honestly, I can see where Ajack is coming from. I'll admit that I am a Traktor user so I'm a bit biased but I most definitely feel that Traktor is FAR superior to Virtual DJ in just about every way! IDK, VDJ just seems like something an 8 yr. old would play with on the family Compaq Presario. Even the name "Virtual DJ" just sounds generic and silly. They really couldn't come up w/ a better name? Come on!! Shits funny.

And let's be honest, nobody actually uses VDJ, do they? IDK anyone. So, while there is no "official" statement that VDJ is inferior and Traktor and Serato are better, it's an un-spoken truth that everyone just knows.

OK, I will constitute myself as an independent judge. I am going to try *both* vdj *and* traktor and I will let my honest, unbiased and final opinion be known on these pages.

That should be acceptable to everyone

did someone mentioned torq?

Did someone mentioned http://www.mixxx.org/? It's free as free can be and enough to learn the basic concepts of digital DJing. Ok, for the moment it lacks an effect engine (work in progress) and only comes with eq, but that might be a good limitation for a beginner (it was for me). After a couple of weeks playing around with it she will know if it is worth to spend money on her new hobby and she will have an idea of what she is missing and which features she really needs. That will help to make her own decission on which road to take.

Theo Void wrote:Bro, why so hostile? Relax.

Because of ridiculous sweeping statements like this:

Theo Void wrote:just generally feels (and is) superior.

Traktor is FAR superior to Virtual DJ in just about every way!

VDJ just seems like something an 8 yr. old would play with

nobody actually uses VDJ, do they?

everyone just knows.

You say they're just opinions, but you're stating them as facts.

You say Traktor is superior in "every way"? I could state some actual facts about VDJ at this point, and list a whole bunch of things VDJ can do that Traktor can't. Surely that makes VDJ the superior s/w? Or do you mean superior in some way other than features?

Well, put it this way. If it is indeed the case that VDJ is essentially mouse controlled, and that you can't use a midi controller, that's a decisive difference right there.

No.......only some versions of VDJ are mouse only.

Any LE version that's supplied free with a controller (such as the Numark DJ2GO) will work with that controller. It's supplied to get you started straight out of the box.

VDJ Home, Broadcaster and Pro Basic are mouse only.

VDJ Pro Full supports nearly 200 controllers natively, more via downloadable mappers, and anything else via your own mapping ability.

GODDAMNIT WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS GET THIS STRAIGHT?!?!?!???

102455 wrote:No.......only some versions of VDJ are mouse only.

Any LE version that's supplied free with a controller (such as the Numark DJ2GO) will work with that controller. It's supplied to get you started straight out of the box.

VDJ Home, Broadcaster and Pro Basic are mouse only.

VDJ Pro Full supports nearly 200 controllers natively, more via downloadable mappers, and anything else via your own mapping ability.

Dude, seriously, did you invent Virtual DJ or something?
You are intensely passionate about defending it and spouting off facts and stats like you spend your life researching them.

I'm sure VDJ has it's advantages and I'm sure it's a great program but I've never tried it. On that note I just bought Algoriddim's new dJay 2 app. It was .99 so I said fuck it and got it. It's pretty fun and the UI is great but it still doesn't touch Traktor DJ for iOS.

I kinda see VDJ the same way. It's a good program but I'll never view it as a truly viable option. IDK why. Just me I guess.

retro is the future:

http://5.14.7bae.static.theplanet.com/d ... 15309.html

http://www.sonicspot.com/virtualturntab ... ables.html

Theo Void wrote:You are intensely passionate about defending it and spouting off facts and stats

No, not particularly passionate about VDJ, I just don't like to see misinformation given to people who ask about something.

As can be seen in this very thread, opinions have been presented as facts. Statements like "VDJ can't compete" with Serato etc. or "experienced DJs only use Traktor or Serato" and so on and so forth.

The OP needs the facts presented in an unbiased fashion, not Traktor fanboys saying that VDJ is "clearly aimed at bedroom DJs" - that's nonsense.

Check the thread. At no point during this have I been badmouthing Traktor, just correcting the misinformation about VDJ.

VDJ is for noobs

Take that back or the duck gets it.

Traktor and djay2 on iOS each have very specific pros and cons. I can definitely see Traktor being a favorite for most people. It is super easy to blend parts and the shortcuts via direct contact with the waveform are great. Plus you can change speed of two synced tracks at once! The UI is just better. And those are just a few of the many unique features.

Djay2 basically expects you to match beats yourself, but it syncs tempo. It gives you fine control via + - buttons instead of having you nudge a waveform. The xfader can be pushed to one side and tapped from the opposite for fast cuts while... 'Scratching'. I have a slight preference for the application of the fx and looping but the cue points are a total buzz kill. Still, you have more control over pitch and playback. And it has those fun assed sample trigger buttons!

I guess it really mostly just comes down to whether you want fast jumping to sections without risking going out of sync, or if you want the ability to nudge tracks that are slightly off beat without fucking up the sync grid of the track.