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myrnova wrote:well "american idiocy" is something known everywhere. Not "americans" idiocy. American. In Italy when something is dumb, cheesy, rude, tasteless etc. we call it "americanata" (meaning "it sounds like a american thing"). It is not "racism". It is because 90% of american comedies, movies, songs etc. are dumb and very stupid, kitsch, cheesy or rude/violent. America, being a sort of brand new "Roman Empire" exports all this idiocy (in america you call it "industry").

so, what you're saying is that you are an American import?

"cheesy"

Steve Ballmer wrote:"cheesy"

"cheesy" (i guess it comes from "cheese") Reminds you somethng?

Congratulations on starting your own thread.

myrnova wrote:. It is because 90% of american comedies, movies, songs etc. are dumb and very stupid, kitsch, cheesy or rude/violent. America, being a sort of brand new "Roman Empire" exports all this idiocy (in america you call it "industry").

see I read this differently, I see that as idiotic Italian distributors who only import the 90% shit. Or idiotic italians who only bother to go and see them. Or is it 80-90% in your opinion?

And I wouldn't normally generalise 80-90% of the Italian population, but 80-90% of posts by Italians on this forum are idiotic and that's all I have to go by.

80-90% of your statistics are usually arse plucked though anyway.

Forge. wrote:

myrnova wrote:. It is because 90% of american comedies, movies, songs etc. are dumb and very stupid, kitsch, cheesy or rude/violent. America, being a sort of brand new "Roman Empire" exports all this idiocy (in america you call it "industry").

see I read this differently, I see that as idiotic Italian distributors who only import the 90% shit. Or idiotic italians who only bother to go and see them. Or is it 80-90% in your opinion?

And I wouldn't normally generalise 80-90% of the Italian population, but 80-90% of posts by Italians on this forum are idiotic and that's all I have to go by.

80-90% of your statistics are usually arse plucked though anyway.

Unfortunatelly we can not avoid "importing" all that american shit. U.S. in 1945 ordered to italian government to "americanize" Italy through U.S. movies, songs, propaganda, etc. Italy is under U.S. control since 1945, it is not an independent country, but a sort of U.S. colony. That is the reason of all that american crap in Italy, not because distributors import it (or better: distributors ARE american here, or controlled by U.S.). The italian government has to obey U.S. and CIA, not only regarding war and crimes, but propaganda, too. There are laws imposed by U.S., for instance: 6 movies out of 10 must be american. 8 TV shows out of 10 american. Laws, understand? News must always talk about U.S. etc. Because of propaganda machinery. Italy is just a U.S. colony, useful for U.S. military bases (they are 113). In order to keep the population calm, U.S. ordered a sort of "brainwashing propaganda" since 1945. The same happens in Germany. The large majority of italians, however, are not brainwashed as the americans are, and keep on hating U.S. for their stupidity and for the crimes commited in Italy, expecially in the 70s, 80s and 90s. It is like in Chile, Mexico, Japan, Germany, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Argentina, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Granada, India, Middle East, Africa, Russia, South Korea, Cambodia, Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Vietnam etc. (I guess at least 90% of population of all countries in the world hate U.S. not only the countries in which they commited crimes. For instance, in Sweden, Norway, Danmark and such antiamericanism is very strong). U.S. are considered Nazi and criminals here, otherwise just stupid and rude (Well, not only here haha ). Media and newspapers are owned by americans, and all that shit is just war propaganda, it has nothing to do with a free country importing it. It is just a sort of "duty" the italian government has to pay to U.S. after WW2. The only "fan" of U.S. in Italy is Berlusconi (mafia), together with the neofascist party. It happens the same elsewhere, in all countries: evil and/or corrupted dictators, fascists and right parties are "pro-US", everywhere (guess why )

Holy fuck, thousands of posts, and they're all the same ^

There's is no way myrnova hates america. He spends too much time on it. Hate is just another kind of love.

It's like those people that like to eat their own poop. I read about a guy that kept a turd in the freezer and sliced off thin pieces for his ritz crackers.

Kinda like that.

knotkranky wrote:Holy fuck, thousands of posts, and they're all the same ^

There's is no way myrnova hates america. He spends too much time on it. Hate is just another kind of love.

It's like those people that like to eat their own poop. I read about a guy that kept a turd in the freezer and sliced off thin pieces for his ritz crackers.

Kinda like that.

How could someone "love" a country based on "white race supremacy" which best "hobby" is committing crimes against humanity around the world, condemned for international terrorism, spreading hate everywhere, poisoning the planet (35% of global pollution), disrespecting U.N rules, international laws, torturing, supporting fascist dictatorships, killing children with drones, spending 400 billions dollars a year for war and weapons, dropping bombs, even nuclear, killing with napalm, depleted uranium, white phosphorus, agent orange...

Just a few numbers about U.S. "records": 10.000.000 native indians, 20.000.000 in the last 25 years ("exporting democracy"), 1.000.000 children in iraq, 2.000.000 civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq, 5.000.000 in Vietnam, 3.000.000 in cambodia. Let alone the rest. Let alone slavery, racism, segregationism, imperialism, death penalty, abu ghraib, bhophal, stay behind, NSA etc.

It is not "hate", it is just intelligence. Every human being can understand U.S. are the most dangerous and criminal nation in history ever. Consequently the only U.S. "fans" are usually fascists, corrupted people (in Italy Berlusconi and mafia), dictators and such. Some nazis could however be envious and jealous about U.S. "records"

Well I have to say if I was from a non-american country and it was good I'd be pissed if it got americanized too.

But it won't matter saying how much I've already gone through the anger with all the american atrocities, so why bother.
Either I'm a fan of US or guilty for not fixing it in your eyes, so wtf.

shadx312 wrote:Well I have to say if I was from a non-american country and it was good I'd be pissed if it got americanized too.

But it won't matter saying how much I've already gone through the anger with all the american atrocities, so why bother.
Either I'm a fan of US or guilty for not fixing it in your eyes, so wtf.

Of course it is not your fault, 80-90% of americans are brainwashed by war propaganda, and at least 90% of them simply ignore what U.S. really are and what the rest of the world think about U.S. It is like the germans in the 30s, something like that. With the difference U.S. claim to be a "democracy" (actually it is a military dictatorship giving citizens fake freedom: some sex, drugs, shitty movies, "freedom of expression", food, shops, etc. All this is admitted because harmless. The rest is forbidden and banned: see Assange, etc.). The proof: only dictatorships have death penalty.

Besides: U.S. are based on white race supremacy. Not white people in the U.S. are actually poor and have no power at all.

I don't hate america but I am pretty disgusted with a lot of aspects. There'll always be some trash in pockets, but if america is going to stay around for longer, I think there'll be some racial rotation until everyone is brown from the mixed gene pool. You just have to be patient. Also with the right administration I think america can recede from most of it's worldly stations in no time. I would definitely empathize with people the world over when american presence leaves their country; let them get back to their own culture without having little pieces of our stupid bullshit like on tv/radio/movies/fast food, etc.

shadx312 wrote:I don't hate america but I am pretty disgusted with a lot of aspects. There'll always be some white trash in the bible belt, but if america is going to stay around for longer, I think there'll be some racial rotation until everyone is brown from the mixed gene pool. You just have to be patient. Also with the right administration I think america can recede from most of it's worldly stations in no time. I would definitely empathize with people the world over when american presence leaves their country; let them get back to their own culture without having little pieces of our stupid bullshit like on tv/radio/movies/fast food, etc.

You just confirm you know NOTHING about the real U.S.
The ones aware of the shit in the U.S. are 10% and have no power. Otherwise they get killed by CIA, wanted by FBI, in prison, banned, censored and similar. The utmost you can have is "Michael Moore" and such

Michael Moore is annoying, I think he cares more about himself than uncovering truth.

The ones aware of that in the U.S. are 10% and have no power. Otherwise they het killed by CIA, wanted, in prison, banned and similar. The utmost you can have is "Michael Moore" amd such

Not quite.

In my opinion Michael Moore and such "eyes openers" are the utmost your state admit. Beyond (Assange, Manning, Snowden etc.) they get killed, censored, banned, tortured, "FBI wanted", considered "antiamericans" and terrorists. 80-90% of people in America are brainwashed and believe in "U.S.A. supremacy", "god bless america" and all the crap the state teach you since you are 3-4 y.o. Blindfolded population, they just claim "that cannot be true" or "mind your country's business" (like germans did in the 30s). Those are about 80-90%. That is why, in my opinion, things are going to be even worse for the world. More wars, more hate, americans brainwashed and not aware of what U.S. really are ("superman and burger... it's ace" ). Again, not your fault.

knotkranky wrote:Holy fuck, thousands of posts, and they're all the same ^

There's is no way myrnova hates america. He spends too much time on it. Hate is just another kind of love.

It's like those people that like to eat their own poop. I read about a guy that kept a turd in the freezer and sliced off thin pieces for his ritz crackers.

Kinda like that.

only 80-90% of the posts are all the same

and 80-90% of the turds were digested turds and ritz