Ableton Forum

shadx312 wrote:Wait, as the type of american I portray myself on here, isn't that supposed to be the same as a 1935 german?

We are getting somewhere

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At this point though it's not such a dumb idea to wonder if LIVE
runs on er,phones....if you don't know much about tech.
Someone like that could think 'well if Launchpad runs on iPad...'

shadx312 wrote: At this point though it's not such a dumb idea to wonder if LIVE
runs on er,phones....if you don't know much about tech.
Someone like that could think 'well if Launchpad runs on iPad...'

But he had this weird combination of knowing the lingo and some specifics, but not that programs are OS specific and/or Ableton only runs on Windows and OSX (which is a quick google away from being answered).

But then I'm a guy, who only ever posts questions as a new thread, if extensive use of several search functions and digging through 10 year old forum posts has not yielded at least a hint.

But he had this weird combination of knowing the lingo and some specifics, but not that programs are OS specific and/or Ableton only runs on Windows and OSX (which is a quick google away from being answered).

I am fully aware its both windows and OSX, I was more aiming at the windows tablets, which is most likely, unlikely android or iOS to be fair. This kinda gives this away that I am aware that its OS specific

my phone supplier dont do windows so cant potentially cut a deal with them there unfortunately.

I was more meaning a cut down version, because I am fully aware a full copy of live would kill a tablet. Notice I'm talking about tablets not phones (not much difference admittedly, besides you wouldnt have screen space on a phone, and tbf a tablet screen would be a bit on the small side!

Also I wouldnt expect any version of Ableton on a tablet if there was one compatible to have much in the way of VSTs, again due to resource reasons.

With windows tablets your now more and more getting hybrid tablet\laptop jobbies which are not hugely expensive, but house more power than your normal tab.

Another issue I would say with Ableton on a tablet is storage space and access speeds! (although if you dont go with apple you can tend to use memory cards.

Also if you read my post I did say

I'm guessing it would be a no due to resources

the question was purely on the random off chance as to whether the extremely unlikly is out there.

I have had a quick scan through the answers and I did notice some people mentioning windows, but not read those answers in depth yet.

to be honest it isnt a biggy whether I can use a tablet or not, im just being tighter than a ducks arse to be fair. Besides you can get a basic windows 7 laptop for £150 so for the sake of saving about £120 (as part of a phone deal) its not worth considering using a tablet in that way, but may consider it as a controller to go along side my other stuff like tb303, midi keyboard etc

Still interested in any future answers though Sorry I havent responded to other posts yet, I havent yet had a proper read of all the posts yet I appreciate the time people have taken to answer the question

Welcome to The Lounge agarrett!

Most of the posts in this thread are a crash course in the frequent thread derailing we do here. The only peaceful resolution we get here is chips and salsa, the great equalizer.

Platform wars still raging - It's just like the old days

Nah. It would be a war if the iPad could install Ableton Live on it. Then we could compare that with the Windows 8 tablets running Live. But, since that is not possible for the iPad, game over. Microsoft advances to the next level in the Tablet World Cup. Apple goes home.

I give credit to Microsoft for having a full OS running tablet but it’s at the expense of affordability for power users. As an Apple user price point hasn’t been a concern to me but that has always been a sticking point on the Microsoft side of Mac vs PC.

8ball wrote:Nah. It would be a war if the iPad could install Ableton Live on it. Then we could compare that with the Windows 8 tablets running Live. But, since that is not possible for the iPad, game over. Microsoft advances to the next level in the Tablet World Cup. Apple goes home.

The only problem with imagining this as a 'win' for Microsoft is that your criteria has no real point to it. So a person can use Live on a tablet? What advantages are there really when Live doesn't take any advantage OF a tablet concept?

The iPad on the other hand has many many music applications that take real advantage of the iPad's form.

I think if you want to talk about music applications on tablets, it'd be best to have things that take real advantage of it being On, otherwise the tablet is no different than using a laptop.

Can a person install Live on a windows or osx device? Yes. Is that really breaking news? No.

Only three things can really change the game.

1. Windows music apps or software could implement a tablet interface, and have a natural form factor (pretty much yet to be seen, aside from a few browser-based things I've seen)

2. Ableton can upgrade their software to be more tablet and MULTI-touch friendly (I've been wishing for this for ages, but I'm not holding my breath), which would actually make for a real advantage aside from portability

3. If apple made a 'pro' iPad which could handle osx+iOS (I don't foresee that kind of thing for another 3yrs).

Until windows machines have apps as clever as those on the iPad, they may run typical software but they do not have the magic of iOS apps. And that is definitely a quality that would be lacking in a device that is a tablet. No magic.

Are there Any decent midi keyboard apps on windows?? Even drum pads? Most of them are terrible. The actual design of windows' touch is not intuitive for music applications. In most cases, you can't even 'click' something until you Lift your finger.

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For our friend 8ball here all that matters is you can run Live on it. Doesn’t matter if the UI isn’t optimized for a great working experience or you need a high end Windows tablet for it to run smoothly(ish). Let him have his small view win on this.

Live runs on a lot of things

I bet you I invested more in iOS music apps then both you combined.

8ball wrote:I bet you I invested more in iOS music apps then both you combined.

In comparison to myself I don’t doubt that. I bought a bunch in the past but stopped when I determined at this point it’s nowhere near what you can get out of a full computer. At the very least there needs to be basic MIDI communication between sound generation apps and DAW apps. All we have now is audio sharing. And I’m not one of those “bask in the limitations!” people. I’m sure it will get there but we’re not there yet.

beats me wrote:

8ball wrote:I bet you I invested more in iOS music apps then both you combined.

In comparison to myself I don’t doubt that. I bought a bunch in the past but stopped when I determined at this point it’s nowhere near what you can get out of a full computer. At the very least there needs to be basic MIDI communication between sound generation apps and DAW apps. All we have now is audio sharing. And I’m not one of those “bask in the limitations!” people. I’m sure it will get there but we’re not there yet.

Did you read the article, someone posted in the main forum a couple of weeks ago, talking about the next iOS?!
Apparently lots of enhancement for audio apps and Midi in the works.
(like Midi over Bluetooth!)

On the other hand Logic users should watch out, Apple seems to be going out of the Pro market more and more (the non-user serviceable MBPs and the long delay of the Mac Pro showed as much). Today they announced the death of Aperture.

TomViolenz wrote:Today they announced the death of Aperture.

Saw that. They’re probably just going to (painfully slowly) merge Aperture’s features into the new Photo app. I’m not that worried about Logic at this point. Sounds like Apple hasn’t put much into Aperture for a long time while they introduced some groundbreaking features into Logic like Drummer on the latest upgrade.

Haven’t seen anything specific about iOS 8 and music apps but I heard there’s more possibilities with it.