Good TV Sci Fi Shows?!

[Tarekith]

I wish I would have stopped there. Man those books just got sooo weird. Speaking of, that Jodorowsky's Dune was pretty interesting watch. If anything, just the last 10 minutes where you see hwo all his crazy ideas influenced so many other movies.

[nebulae]

^ how to make a 14-hour movie? Just ask Peter Jackson.

[Tarekith]

I'm not even sure I can watch the third one

[nebulae]

I actually just saw The Desolationism of the Great Dragon Smaug (geezus if that movie wasn't entitled by Morrissey), and I really liked it. But you're right, the third movie will try very hard to be too epic and likely suck.

[eyeknow]

BG's last season was so godawful pathetic that it simply ruined the entire previous seasons. All this nonsensical hocus pocus crap.

omfg

They should have ended it when they found the dead world where everything used to be a cylon. That would have been a fitting end.

[nebulae]

^ Agreed, a tragic and dark end would have served the show well.

[Tarekith]

The dragon in smaug was pretty cool, I'll give them that. The whole thing just seems so far removed from the hobbit story as I remember it, just not my thing.

I had to bail on Falling Skies after the last two weeks too, man it got cheesy fast. Oh well, more time away from tv isn't really a bad thing

[nebulae]

Agreed on Falling Skies...started out great, but now, it's not doing it for me.

Check out the Leftovers. It's kinda dark and creepy...not classic sci-fi, but at least other-worldly.

[TomViolenz]

^ Agreed, a tragic and dark end would have served the show well.

This! But I guess that doesn't pass TV executives

And this whole one true god thing, which was interesting in the beginning as a coping mechanism for what had happened to them and to show the different religious factions among the survivors, became an incredible bore around the middle of the 3rd season.

And that the last 5 cylons where actually good guys all along was also very contrived IMO

[eyeknow]

I dunno about that. I guess the main dude is a ciggy head, so he got those shows with tons of ciggies.

"hi, were a billion miles from out nuked out cities with a rag-tag fleet........but we have marlboros, no tooth paste, no water, and mana for food.......but ciggies, yep, CAN HAS!

Can you tell I've been drinking?

[eyeknow]

And I had a thing for starbuck! Then she turned out to be a fruitloop. Fuck, no wonder I'm gay!

[TomViolenz]

Not wanting to stick it in the crazy makes you gay????

Damn!

[eyeknow]

Another lost joke. Well, the tequila could have had something to do with it.

[Tarekith]

And I had a thing for starbuck! Then she turned out to be a fruitloop. Fuck, no wonder I'm gay!

Guessing you'll like the new Riddick movie then, though it was actually better than I expected.

[TomViolenz]

That canadian one, Continuum.

Starts off semi shit, while the protagonist is still trying to get back to the future for her fucking son, but slowly finds its feet and even has a turnaround mid-season moment where the disgruntled audience member (me) appears as a deus ex machina and tells the protagonist "stop whimpering about your damn family and get with the sci fi". Future son is never mentioned again!

From then on it's a better series full of convoluted multidimensional timetravel plot lines.

Graphed satisfaction

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Ok, binged all three seasons. Here's what I thought at the time I watched it:

Caution will contain major SPOILERS:




Season 1:

Nice first 10 minutes, great premise for a show and good depiction of a rather plausible futur: BUT The corporations got into power because they bailed out the governments?! Well, that's neither how it really would work, nor is it even necessary. They already have all that power over their government, what more could they gain by making it official?! But that's a minor point and doesn't distract much.

Then the time jump happens into today.
And it turns out we are not supposed to root for the freedom fighters ( ) but for the jack boot representing the corporate facists?! This is confusing, normaly our media likes to keep up appearances. So this could make for a very good show, or a very bad one, we'll see.

The corporate defender is a tough as nails, sexy woman, how very unusual
And she immidiately gets connected via her tech to the inventor of that tech, who is surprised that it works, but otherwise seems to have very little problem accepting her to be a time traveler.
The inventor is of course a wizz kid genius, who is good natured, but socially a little awkward (geez, where have we ever seen that before ).
And even though he makes all these great inventions, he apparently spends all his days playing computer games
During the rest of the first season he is not much more than the little lap-dog/side kick to the woman ("aw, you're so beautiful..." )

The freedom fighters, though they risked their lives for good fights in very risky situations against a vastly overpowered enemy before (as we can see in many flash backs), all the sudden lose all their morality and act as mere criminals. And not even in a "the end justifies the means" way, but in a: "let's rob that bank and kill everyone, even though it would be trivial for us not do do that and still get what we want" kind of way. Btw they do that for pretty much the whole show, and though a lot of stuff is done by them, it's hard to connect anything they do to any effect they have on the development as they would like it. (rather the opposite actually)
The only exception is the outcast of the group Kellog, he goes about the whole thing in a very plausible way, though he doesn't seem to care about any revolution either

The rest of the first season is then pretty standard fare cop show, with some CSI elements, that don't get any more believable just because you say "future tech did it"
Also most of the science is just TV show techno babble (Hint: A particle collider will never be the tool to achieve fusion )

Verdict on season 1: If I would have had anything else lined up, I would have stopped right there. But luckily I didn't, because it gets better


To be continu(u)ed...