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eddit wrote:-> dpel

you probably should have kept the chair. That looks comfortable. Oh, and maybe the pot plant...

I have just done the same, although my before photo wasn't nearly as dope

<sitting on the chair as i type>
no worries, i kept the chair. and the plant is still alive! amazing.

i can't beleive i was a slave to all of that gear. my Live template 10 times the amount of intruments i used to have as hardware (and some better at that!)

I wish I'd never have seen this thread...

I've been umming and ahhing with completely swapping to laptop for music for a few months now.

I actually build music production PC's for clients and have a nice solid rack monster which have never even blinked however many VSTs i chuck at it.

However I picked up a Toshiba laptop a few weeks ago and it can match my desktop in LIVE! tests.

This got me thinking about "the switch"...No more cables, less noise, portability etc..

and all these points are very valid....but I cant shake the feeling that I'd regret it.

If my laptop breaks down, it has to go to the shop... If my Rack PC throws a wobbly, I pop the lid and stick a new part in.

So if I went Laptop, I'd technically need a backup of someform anyway...

Factor in that although "portable" it can still be a kerfuffle with cables and wires from external devices..etc..

and then theres the upgrade path... Laptops are to the layman self contained apart from ugrading the RAM and HD.

Desktops/Racks are tinkerers paradises!

So.... I'm still confused...and using both!

I'll keep my eye on this thread incase someone makes a revelation that opens my eyes...

Freakybeatz

Freakybeatz wrote:I wish I'd never have seen this thread...

I've been umming and ahhing with completely swapping to laptop for music for a few months now.

I actually build music production PC's for clients and have a nice solid rack monster which have never even blinked however many VSTs i chuck at it.

However I picked up a Toshiba laptop a few weeks ago and it can match my desktop in LIVE! tests.

This got me thinking about "the switch"...No more cables, less noise, portability etc..

and all these points are very valid....but I cant shake the feeling that I'd regret it.

If my laptop breaks down, it has to go to the shop... If my Rack PC throws a wobbly, I pop the lid and stick a new part in.

So if I went Laptop, I'd technically need a backup of someform anyway...

Factor in that although "portable" it can still be a kerfuffle with cables and wires from external devices..etc..

and then theres the upgrade path... Laptops are to the layman self contained apart from ugrading the RAM and HD.

Desktops/Racks are tinkerers paradises!

So.... I'm still confused...and using both!

I'll keep my eye on this thread incase someone makes a revelation that opens my eyes...

Freakybeatz

You mention some VERY valid points here. Particularly the upgrade/repair issue. With a PC, I can just open it and change whatever I feel like, with a laptop it's not like that...

On the other hand, I'm more and more convinced that the real upgradability of PCs is not quite as one should expect. When processor manufacturers change processor types (and that happens every 3/4 years) most of the time your motherboard will not accept it, or the memory won't be compatible, the power supply is not adequate, yadda, yadda. You know what I mean. And having a laptop with limited upgradability will make you focus on the real problem: making music instead of upgrading your computer every 3 months with the latest gizmos.

Otherwise, how would those mac guys survive? They haven't seen any real improvements in like 3 years, up to the new macintels...

As for the portability, you can't beat a laptop. Its true that sometimes you need external devices, but that can also be said of standard pcs. BUT, you can also strip it down to its bones, and take it on the road. Try that with a PC.

i have too recently changed my desktop for a laptop, my RME Project Hammerfall for a E-MU 1616m, so my DAW setup apart from those 2 changes is pretty much the same, plus a big advantage.

i can now work in my home studio, unplug the microdock, flip laptop into bag and head off for a gig, and then try out a tune i was working on an hour earlier.

How cool is that.

mr-e wrote:for me , the greatest thing of using a laptop is never ever to have to listen 5 hours in a row to the damn fannoise and harddisknoise coming out of a desktop computer

my laptop makes more noise than the base i have in the cupboard

Im to reading postings with love for laptop cool. I thinking this great but my laptop g4 powerbook could never do my music things itselves I liking idea of me and only laptop i did try for one weeks before and i feel lonely and my musics not the same. so i go back to my normal but now i buy more hardware for making my music not sounding so like all the others music made in computer only. That is good but not for me

radeon wrote:Im to reading postings with love for laptop cool. I thinking this great but my laptop g4 powerbook could never do my music things itselves I liking idea of me and only laptop i did try for one weeks before and i feel lonely and my musics not the same. so i go back to my normal but now i buy more hardware for making my music not sounding so like all the others music made in computer only. That is good but not for me

what about that comfy chair??

radeon wrote:Im to reading postings with love for laptop cool. I thinking this great but my laptop g4 powerbook could never do my music things itselves I liking idea of me and only laptop i did try for one weeks before and i feel lonely and my musics not the same. so i go back to my normal but now i buy more hardware for making my music not sounding so like all the others music made in computer only. That is good but not for me

i bet a macbook pro could do all things you want it to.

probably more

forge wrote:

radeon wrote:Im to reading postings with love for laptop cool. I thinking this great but my laptop g4 powerbook could never do my music things itselves I liking idea of me and only laptop i did try for one weeks before and i feel lonely and my musics not the same. so i go back to my normal but now i buy more hardware for making my music not sounding so like all the others music made in computer only. That is good but not for me

what about that comfy chair??

No i prefer my music to be good the chair making no difference to sound