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wilxon wrote:[
Ths is a better setup, use the xone 62, 1 faderfox, and and you will shortly be able to gat a device that listenes to your vinyl and punches the bpm to live for perfect sync.

i have forgotten what this is called so if anone knows please remind me.

It's that new Redsound device I think you mean here. If it's anything like my Cycloops then it'll be quite auseful device.

To answer the first paragraph above, I'm not sure I need the ability to mix Live with vinyl (though when I set up my Xone 62 i might try it). Even then I'll probably be able to tweak things without a MIDI sync device (like I do with drum machines).

thats exactly it

the soundbite looks good as well, like a hardware beat repeat.

wilxon wrote:thats exactly it

the soundbite looks good as well.

Yeah that's essentially what a Cycloops is. It works well for me. Allows me to mix in a style halfway between how I play with vinyl and how I play with Live.

yeah (parts of) mine died after a couple of hours use. They were a very happy couple of hours but there are definitely some issues with the first few units. Fortunately A&H have been very helpful and I should have a replacement by the start of next week.

A&H Technical Support worked it out for me.

All is well.

How come the BPM clock only goes down to 70 but goes up to a ridiculous 400? I want to like this thing but A&H make it so hard. Seriously--I play in the 60s all the time. DJing hip hop especially sucks if you can't get down there.

What about putting some fly doubletime drums over a Screw break? Oh, you can't do that, yr ultimate mixer won't let you.

Hopefully they can drop some kind of firmware update. I could handle only being able to crank it to 390 if I could have the 60s. Really, I don't think I've ever worked over 220.

I'm glad A&H are helping you guys out.

A&H make great mixers. I feel so pleased with myself when I can convince someone to step-up to an A&H as opposed to a Mackie or worse. I don't work on commission, so it makes no difference to me financially, I just believe in Allen & Heath as a company and I'm happy I can help keep them around.

Our sales manager said something really poignant recently. He said "The world of pro audio manufacturing is in a race to zero.". He's totally right. Just when you thought Behringer was the bottom of the bucket, suddenly there's Phonic, an even cheaper line of mixers that totally and unapologetically steal their designs of Behringer, who stole their design from Mackie, etc, etc.

A&H is the real thing. I can understand that the first generation is having issues. We all know that story. The 3D would be a great tool to have in the home studio or in the booth. Yes redundant or not, it has a real A&H mixer inside of it so it's always going to be useful. More power to you early adopters! I'm jelous because that thing is one of the prettiest machines I've even seen in my life. The first time I saw it I couldn't move for about 10 minutes.

subterFUSE wrote:A&H Technical Support worked it out for me.

All is well.

What was the issue?

rob.

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I'm glad A&H are helping you guys out.

A&H make great mixers. I feel so pleased with myself when I can convince someone to step-up to an A&H as opposed to a Mackie or worse. I don't work on commission, so it makes no difference to me financially, I just believe in Allen & Heath as a company and I'm happy I can help keep them around.

Our sales manager said something really poignant recently. He said "The world of pro audio manufacturing is in a race to zero.". He's totally right. Just when you thought Behringer was the bottom of the bucket, suddenly there's Phonic, an even cheaper line of mixers that totally and unapologetically steal their designs of Behringer, who stole their design from Mackie, etc, etc.

A&H is the real thing. I can understand that the first generation is having issues. We all know that story. The 3D would be a great tool to have in the home studio or in the booth. Yes redundant or not, it has a real A&H mixer inside of it so it's always going to be useful. More power to you early adopters! I'm jelous because that thing is one of the prettiest machines I've even seen in my life. The first time I saw it I couldn't move for about 10 minutes.

I think you are talking about A&H studio mixers, because you wouldnt reccommend a xone:3d in a studio or similar setup - would you?

I disagree with what your saying as a general thing. You will always get low budget rubbish like behringer, M-audio, Edirol etc etc, to you and me they are not worth bothering with, i no longer own any behringer stuff because the quality isnt there.

But to the 15 year old kid who bought his first mixer or speakers with the little money he does have - its a big start to pro engineering career.

Ive been there, i have every confidence most people on this forum have been there.

Without the cheap stuff not as many people would be doing what we are doing.

I really like the yamaha 02r & 01v series of mixers, and of course SSL.

A&H are just another good make, like a few others. a good average.

Sales Dude McBoob wrote:I'm glad A&H are helping you guys out.

A&H make great mixers. I feel so pleased with myself when I can convince someone to step-up to an A&H as opposed to a Mackie or worse. I don't work on commission, so it makes no difference to me financially, I just believe in Allen & Heath as a company and I'm happy I can help keep them around.

Our sales manager said something really poignant recently. He said "The world of pro audio manufacturing is in a race to zero.". He's totally right. Just when you thought Behringer was the bottom of the bucket, suddenly there's Phonic, an even cheaper line of mixers that totally and unapologetically steal their designs of Behringer, who stole their design from Mackie, etc, etc.

A&H is the real thing. I can understand that the first generation is having issues. We all know that story. The 3D would be a great tool to have in the home studio or in the booth. Yes redundant or not, it has a real A&H mixer inside of it so it's always going to be useful. More power to you early adopters! I'm jelous because that thing is one of the prettiest machines I've even seen in my life. The first time I saw it I couldn't move for about 10 minutes.

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