, so you still haven't hinted to any reason why there shouldn't be one, lives greatest feature is it's interface workflow, and having the 'simpler' or new sampler include slicing and mapping would cut down the steps of what we've been doing in the arrangement view considerabley and people who still want to do it that way could still do it that way if they wanted to.Live IS a slicer
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ok tongue and cheek then , so you still haven't hinted to any reason why there shouldn't be one, lives greatest feature is it's interface workflow, and having the 'simpler' or new sampler include slicing and mapping would cut down the steps of what we've been doing in the arrangement view considerabley and people who still want to do it that way could still do it that way if they wanted to.
, so you still haven't hinted to any reason why there shouldn't be one, lives greatest feature is it's interface workflow, and having the 'simpler' or new sampler include slicing and mapping would cut down the steps of what we've been doing in the arrangement view considerabley and people who still want to do it that way could still do it that way if they wanted to.Mac, Mpc, and a Microphone
Thanks for the Slicer Abe.
Thanks for the Slicer Abe.
The Campers were handpicked by Alex, the dude that sees everything but is never hereb0unce wrote:ya, nice one. Anyways oneliners aside, supster is a prime candidate to alpha test - honest, a professional, productive, knows the program & its limits and most importantly is tech savvy enough to be useful. The perfect alpha tester...well for someone who wants to alpha test software, and not engage in a cynical marketing stunt.
And about Supster, I agree.
So do the other campers. Because we actaully had a discussion in november about how to break this camp business news to the forum.
And how to handle it tactful in order not to piss too many people off. (especially supster. Though he was cool with it)
It's not about postcount or anything.
It's all about content. For every 25 posts filled with nonsense, there's at least one gem
just to say thatb0unce wrote:you're pissing against the wind mate, trust me.plain wrote:who said anything about needing a slicer.....did I?...no......but you know that this isn't a slicer....and all you biased beta testers.....dont try to prove your case against the live 6 upgrade...that's for us to decide...i dont disagree nor agree with your usages of the new features and the limitations......just dont post threads about things that aren't what they are...end of story
and its no coincidence ableton didnt give an alpha to any of the critics
did supster get an alpha ? He's the most well spoken of the outspoken critics, and from the posts of his I've read he's got way more technical know-how to be a useful alpha tester. of course, he may not have had the time. and he's not a relentless sycophant. i can solemly say supster calls it how he sees it.
theres at least one alpha tester who didnt get the priviledge of being an alpha tester for knowing what to do with it, but because he's a mega-poster who spends at least half of those posts kissing ass.
yes, we might be biased, who wouldn't in our case, but at the same time we're trying to stay objective.
THERE ARE some highly-skilled alpha-testers, and long-term Live-users.
but what would be the point bashing Live6 right now, as there is still time to improve it?
believe me, we're pushing hard to make it a good release, reading all the discussions here to suggest them to the abes.
anyway, to get back on topic.
i do A LOT of slicing with Live (vocal and drums cutup). but i think the original post was right, as he didn't write that live was an "AUTOMATIC" slicer, just a slicer.
which is a fact.
I don't think I've used a sliced file for a long while, i generally used to do it in order to quantise audio, so Live makes that job a million times easier, and the reat I do in the arrange window.
I always find that I have to fine tune each slive by hand in recycle, it always seems to put the slice in the wrong place.
Having a stack of identical clips in session view, startpoints set to different beats, ammounts to the same technique as trad D&B style slicing anyway. Just set them up to trigger from your keyboard and jam away.
That said, the free version of shortcircuit makes a great REX file player for Live, you just have to save a midi file from recycle, load all the sliced chromatically and you're away. Great little sampler.
I always find that I have to fine tune each slive by hand in recycle, it always seems to put the slice in the wrong place.
Having a stack of identical clips in session view, startpoints set to different beats, ammounts to the same technique as trad D&B style slicing anyway. Just set them up to trigger from your keyboard and jam away.
That said, the free version of shortcircuit makes a great REX file player for Live, you just have to save a midi file from recycle, load all the sliced chromatically and you're away. Great little sampler.
No it doesn't. That was one of the first things i tried.Poster wrote:if it all helps;
Sampler reads Rex files
It was intended behaviour, but warp markers and transients are 2 different worlds.
The feature is probably dropped for this release, but only because Ableton came up with a better solution (which cant be disclosed) for a future update.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for this release.
But don't believe for one second that Ableton is not looking into making a slicer and dicer....
Live 8 will chop a gourmet meal....
ooh.. ok..hoffman2k wrote:No it doesn't. That was one of the first things i tried.Poster wrote:if it all helps;
Sampler reads Rex files
It was intended behaviour, but warp markers and transients are 2 different worlds.
The feature is probably dropped for this release, but only because Ableton came up with a better solution (which cant be disclosed) for a future update.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for this release.
But don't believe for one second that Ableton is not looking into making a slicer and dicer....
Live 8 will chop a gourmet meal....
then the M-Audio dude who speaks as 'we from Ableton' wasn't awake when he was instructed.. (why does M-Audio speaks on behalf of Ableton anyway?)
see Sonic State video :
http://sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3235
in the end of the movie he speaks about Sampler/Rex...
Thats m-audio for yaPoster wrote:ooh.. ok..hoffman2k wrote:No it doesn't. That was one of the first things i tried.Poster wrote:if it all helps;
Sampler reads Rex files
It was intended behaviour, but warp markers and transients are 2 different worlds.
The feature is probably dropped for this release, but only because Ableton came up with a better solution (which cant be disclosed) for a future update.
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for this release.
But don't believe for one second that Ableton is not looking into making a slicer and dicer....
Live 8 will chop a gourmet meal....
then the M-Audio dude who speaks as 'we from Ableton' wasn't awake when he was instructed.. (why does M-Audio speaks on behalf of Ableton anyway?)
see Sonic State video :
http://sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3235
in the end of the movie he speaks about Sampler/Rex...
Ruining the surprise for everybody....Disclosing info we aren't allowed to disclose.
They probably got a glimpse of live 6 in the early alpha stages.
Which did indeed feature rex support. But it didn't work like was originally hoped for. Ableton said they have better solution then the implementation that was planned.
For updates on that info, skim thru the m-auido site. they probably have it on a page somewhere
Actually we've been asked to hold off on discussing this one - it may not make it in to this version as it looks like it may require a new warp algorithm which wont make it - so it's definitely on the cards, but not yetbonomius wrote:really? I don't find itPoster wrote:if it all helps;
Sampler reads Rex files
actually I agree martyn the ONLY reason I was interested is because I have a folder full of rex files from my reaosn dayys - but I probably even have them as wavs somewhere anywayMartyn wrote:I don't think I've used a sliced file for a long while, i generally used to do it in order to quantise audio, so Live makes that job a million times easier, and the reat I do in the arrange window.
I always find that I have to fine tune each slive by hand in recycle, it always seems to put the slice in the wrong place.
Having a stack of identical clips in session view, startpoints set to different beats, ammounts to the same technique as trad D&B style slicing anyway. Just set them up to trigger from your keyboard and jam away.
That said, the free version of shortcircuit makes a great REX file player for Live, you just have to save a midi file from recycle, load all the sliced chromatically and you're away. Great little sampler.