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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:59 am
by melocoton
I'm too busy making money to change my sig :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:04 pm
by hambone1
I don't understand all of this. Don't want it? Can't afford it? Don't buy it. It doesn't get any simpler than that (no pun intended!)

Does your current version stop working just because you don't buy the latest version? I didn't think so.

Economics 101 - supply and demand. If the upgrades/add-ons are overpriced, nobody will buy them.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:25 pm
by Tarekith
No, for a lot of people it's:

"want it, just can't afford it, or think it's over-priced."

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:42 pm
by hambone1
I still want a Corvette... can't afford it, so I make do with my Toyota and my bicycle! :cry:

And if Live 6/Sampler/etc is overpriced, it won't sell. It will balance itself out. Supply and demand.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:00 pm
by Tarekith
More or less the supply and demand aspect is what I think will win out.

I just think (as do many others apparently) if it was priced a bit cheaper, they would ultimately make more money than at the current price of $200. Too late now though :)

I think the corvette example is not quite accurate to the way we are thinking of this. Instead, imagine that you COULD afford a corvette, but if you want the (arguable) better stick shift transmission versus the stock automatic, it would cost you another $10k. You can certainly see the benefit of the stick shift and would really like it, but it's too expensive (in your mind) for what it ultimately adds. Of course for some diehard corvette fans, they will do anything to have all the bells and whistles, regardless of the cost. But for the rest of their customers, the cost is harder to justify, regardless of how bad they want it, or the benefits it might have over other third party (non-OEM) transmissions. Especially as third party transmissions typically are better performing/more feature laden for the same price.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:11 pm
by ze2be
Sampler should be part of the Live 6 upgrade!

I cant aford the curent price, so even though I had the money to upgrade to Live 6, I couldnt aford the discount on the sampler.

I seriously think it should be included in v6, and rather pay some extra for the upgrade.

If it was 99,- I might consider it some time around december! :)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:19 pm
by hambone1
Tarekith wrote:More or less the supply and demand aspect is what I think will win out.

I just think (as do many others apparently) if it was priced a bit cheaper, they would ultimately make more money than at the current price of $200. Too late now though :)

I think the corvette example is not quite accurate to the way we are thinking of this. Instead, imagine that you COULD afford a corvette, but if you want the (arguable) better stick shift transmission versus the stock automatic, it would cost you another $10k. You can certainly see the benefit of the stick shift and would really like it, but it's too expensive (in your mind) for what it ultimately adds. Of course for some diehard corvette fans, they will do anything to have all the bells and whistles, regardless of the cost. But for the rest of their customers, the cost is harder to justify, regardless of how bad they want it, or the benefits it might have over other third party (non-OEM) transmissions. Especially as third party transmissions typically are better performing/more feature laden for the same price.
Good points. But if I felt the manual transmission was overpriced, I wouldn't buy it. Or if I wasn't able to afford it, I couldn't buy it. But if I was really determined to have it, I'd get some more gigs/work to pay for it.

You're right about the $99 pricing potentially being more profitable, but only if the Abes were able to sell more than twice as many than those at $199.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:23 pm
by Tarekith
I think that's just what most of us are trying to get across in this thread. Just making it clear to Ableton that there's a LOT of people who are only not getting Sampler because they feel it's a bit too expensive. Obviously a subjective and personal decision.

Good luck with the corvette Hambone! :)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:34 pm
by hambone1
I wouldn't go manual OR automatic. I'd go for Six-Speed Paddle Shift with Automatic Modes - best of both! :wink:

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I wonder if Chevy would sell more if they cut the price in half...

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:42 pm
by Tarekith
Doubtful, American made cars suck anyway :)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:04 pm
by alterim
i'd buy it if you could automate the sample start

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:09 pm
by Poster
if 199 is too much, you don't really need this instrument..
if 99 is the right amount, you just want to have it..


it's not about if it's worth 199,
it's about if it's worth 199 to you..

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:10 pm
by hoffman2k
Poster wrote:if 199 is too much, you don't really need this instrument..
if 99 is the right amount, you just want to have it..


it's not about if it's worth 199,
it's about if it's worth 199 to you..
Sold :D

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:13 pm
by Poster
hoffman2k wrote:
Poster wrote:if 199 is too much, you don't really need this instrument..
if 99 is the right amount, you just want to have it..


it's not about if it's worth 199,
it's about if it's worth 199 to you..
Sold :D
I accept Visa and Mastercard :wink: :lol:

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:17 pm
by b0unce
or for mactel users, there's nothing else available...or is there ?