Ableton Forum

Angstrom wrote: But, I never had any time for the Quad crowd, they might be blowing whistles in the vid, but they are now driving sparkly 18 foot tall pickups with a samurai sword on the back seat, selling vim&coke to each other, punching students and investing in 'luxury apartments' in town. fuck them all.

Whereas you're just like peace and love and happiness obviously!

Seriously though, who cares what the venue is/was? Doesn't looking at that clip and the way the room erupts take you back? There is not one person in that room who isn't wasted and having a wicked time, not a single one. You don't get that any more (in the UK anyway).

b0unce wrote:

subterFUSE wrote:

disco45 wrote:Superb....a golden age, brought a tear to my eye....glad I was around then 'cos you sure as hell aren't going to have a good time like that these days.

You're right.


Everyone who keeps saying... "The scene isn't dead.... it's going to come back... or whatever..."

Sorry, folks... it will NEVER come back like it was back then. Those days are gone forever. I'm glad I caught the tail end of it, because I've got a lot of great memories. Even still, when I visit old friends and we try to recreate the vibe from the glory days... but it just can't be done.

what glory days are you talking about subterFUSE ? have you lived somewhere else other than florida ? or done some travelling ?....I'm going out on a limb here, but I doubt florida has seen this kind of thing. or am I a victim of stereotyping ? Florida - the redneck state? where you're looking at a lifetime in prison for running a club where this kind of thing went on ?

Whereas I'm sure nothing could add up to the Mecca that Madchester used to be, Miami used to have quite a kicking scene.

I'm talking about hedonistic drug use, in particular Ecstacy/MDMA - if you're saying that was going on in the same way or more than in the UK.....then ok, I'll take you're word for it

yip i remember the peak of the sene in South Africa back in the mid 90,s and it was amazing , fresh , new , man it was fun , the wharehouse parties were so wicked , now its all cheezy clubs with snobs and bullshit , mostly, very few good parties and very few good clubs, ( there arer a fefw good parties and club still, but far and few )

b0unce wrote:I'm talking about hedonistic drug use, in particular Ecstacy/MDMA - if you're saying that was going on in the same way or more than in the UK.....then ok, I'll take you're word for it

MDMA was all over the place, man. And there was really good stuff.... and there still is, if you know where to find it.

What is different now is that there are 2 AM liquor laws, and 3 AM closings. Back in the 1990s, the clubs stayed open all night, and into the next day.

subterFUSE wrote:
What is different now is that there are 2 AM liquor laws, and 3 AM closings. Back in the 1990s, the clubs stayed open all night, and into the next day.

really?

last time I was down there I was out all night (South Beach)

on the subject - XTC is was amazing the FIRST time you took it - after that...

for a lot of people the early 90's was the first time they took a pill - changed perceptions and everything - opened up a whole new world

by time the turn of the century if you were still doing E it's obviously not even going to be near the same experience - which would lead one to believe better days have gone by - and they have

but I'm sure someone somewhere today took their first e-bomb and in another 5 to 10 years will say - "They just don't make pills the way they used to."

hell, say what you want about the original posted video, but i got goosebumps watching it!!

i used to go to many a rave in LA and SF between 98-2001. and did loads of E, but here, in cali, the cats i hung with were freakin alchemists; we all did a whole regimen of multi vitamins, 5htp, wheatgrass, blah blah, blah...before and after partying. i never had any hangovers. hell, i was healthier then than i am now in my drug free phase.

i just remember washes of sounds and screaming and jumping and hugging and all that shit. and i feel so honored to have been able to be apart of something that was, although shortlived, so idealistic and beautiful.

onyx

dj_wubwub wrote:http://youtube.com/watch?v=yt6PHhOZ32g

Interesting doco. I wonder what the Dallas club scene was like when it was available for sale over the bar...

the intro listed the co producer as a Jordan Kronick .... something suss about that

Adonis wrote:

subterFUSE wrote:
What is different now is that there are 2 AM liquor laws, and 3 AM closings. Back in the 1990s, the clubs stayed open all night, and into the next day.

really?

last time I was down there I was out all night (South Beach)

on the subject - XTC is was amazing the FIRST time you took it - after that...

for a lot of people the early 90's was the first time they took a pill - changed perceptions and everything - opened up a whole new world

by time the turn of the century if you were still doing E it's obviously not even going to be near the same experience - which would lead one to believe better days have gone by - and they have

but I'm sure someone somewhere today took their first e-bomb and in another 5 to 10 years will say - "They just don't make pills the way they used to."

South Beach has 5 AM close. Downtown Miami has some places which can stay open all night.

But those are the exception, not the rule. Many places in Florida have 2 AM liquor laws, and 3 AM closings. Orlando had a FAR better scene than Miami did back in the heyday of the 1990s.