Saw pics of myself playing and it's not good...

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Post by robtronik » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:00 pm

yeah, it isn't hard to convey a good presence if you lock on the audience as though you were them.

If you love and feel what you are doing, that's contagious if you project that. It doesn't have to be dancing or pumping your fist (borderline cheesy if you suck at the aforementioned things), but audiences are attuned to your nuances.

If you show none, you get none back.

I usually pick certain people out in the crowd and try to make sure they know I'm watching them and their reaction. Then the scan across the crowd means I have different focal points to pay attention to besides the gear.

But eye contact, a little movment and excitement can go along way during a three hour set. Even an hour set!

I'm still working on this point, but my guess is that it is an ever evolving thing wiht no one right answer. Look at Digweed. He's about as serious as you can get, and the crowd loves him.

Then Jamie Lidell is like a crazy mofo up there and people eat it up. I think, at heart, however, you can't be insincere. You have to do what you feel comfortable doing to get locked into the crowd.

If you are insincere that comes across pretty easily as well. And frankly speaking, people don't mind if you are deadly serious too. That's where they are interpreting you working hard on their behalf so they can have a good time, IMO.

But at the end of the day, people are there to party and get lost. Help them do that. :)

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Post by Adonis » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:09 pm

The name Donald Glaude comes to mind

there's no other dj on the planet like him - and when you do or have seen him, you know what I'm talking about

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Post by djsynchro » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:34 pm

Normally I'm in the middle at the front of the stage but there wasn't enough space at this gig. (Upstairs room @ Paradiso Amsterdam) Still you can see how I solved the looks problem. Ableton sticker has now been replaced by the Stikka logo but we didn't have it then. The grin on my face is from receiving an email with good news :D

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Post by Cache » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:42 pm

m breqs - good to hear that you got the sound right, but starting from a clean slate is definitely more consuming and takes your attention than if you are starting with a palette of sound components (kiks, snrs, hats, bass)

if you are creating on the fly totally then you are going to be focusing on the scrren. no two ways about it, otherwise you will sound like sh(t.

also, the setup is important too. there is nothing worse than having to work at the wrong height for your gig. having to hunch down is a motherfugga. prob worse though to sit down.

finally, dude you look like a waiter! no personal offence meant to your dress code, but if you are performing you are there to entertain. i play on stage with my band as well as DJ/live PA and even if you are just dj'ing you should look FUN. stick on some sunglasses, take off your shirt. do something to make you look like a fcking party monster and you are having an incredible time that people get a buzz out of just watching

rob is right about eye contact and having the lappy to the left/right. if its right in front of you you will be glued to it. also it helps to dim the laptop otherwise you are blinded by the light and like a 'rabbit in the spotlight' so when you do look up you can't see sH(t.

looking forward to the pics from your next gig!
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Post by M. Bréqs » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:47 pm

Cache wrote:finally, dude you look like a waiter! no personal offence meant to your dress code, but if you are performing you are there to entertain. i play on stage with my band as well as DJ/live PA and even if you are just dj'ing you should look FUN. stick on some sunglasses, take off your shirt. do something to make you look like a fcking party monster and you are having an incredible time that people get a buzz out of just watching
:lol:

It was a haloween costume. Sort of a Circus Ring-leader thing. It came with a big red satin cape and a top hat, but it was to friggin hot to wear.
Cache wrote: if you are starting with a palette of sound components (kiks, snrs, hats, bass)
I start with samples for Impulse in my browser... I have a drum hit library, so I'm not synthesizing my drums on the fly. I just want to set the record straight - I would need four hands and two discrete sets of ears to synthesize my drums while trying to compose at the same time...

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Post by Spiralgroove » Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:51 pm

the problem i have with "dj antics"
is people up there acting a fool are generally "doing" just as much as people who arent...

i find it laughable that for some people seeing the dj be physical translates into "wow they must be a great dj"

i use my ears, not my eyes.

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Post by Rahlo » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:17 pm

timothyallan wrote:At least you're man enough to admit it :lol:

You know the drill... throw in some smiles to the audience/air to fist punching/full body knob turning and you'll be sweet...
That's priceless!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by robtronik » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:32 pm

Spiralgroove wrote:the problem i have with "dj antics"
is people up there acting a fool are generally "doing" just as much as people who arent...

i find it laughable that for some people seeing the dj be physical translates into "wow they must be a great dj"

i use my ears, not my eyes.
I don't know anyone who has ever based their opinion on a DJ's ability to be good solely due to their antics on stage.

If the music is wack, its wack. Everyone knows that. You could be a cirque de soleil muthafucka behind the decks and be wack as hell as a DJ. ;)

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Post by Pitch Black » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:35 am

mikemc wrote: (Pitch Black, you always have good crowd pics :) you need to come up with some jpgs that allow a way to 'insert your act here' :) )

INSERT YOUR ACT HERE:

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Post by DeadlyKungFu » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:40 am

Ahhh!!!! RUUUUNNN!!! It's the headless DJs!!

The bodies need to dance around too.

Very cool shots ;)

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Post by mikemc » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:33 pm

Pitch Black wrote:
mikemc wrote: (Pitch Black, you always have good crowd pics :) you need to come up with some jpgs that allow a way to 'insert your act here' :) )

INSERT YOUR ACT HERE:.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: classic
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Re: Saw pics of myself playing and it's not good...

Post by mechcon » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:28 pm

mercyplease wrote:Your a real pro man!.
Ditch the mask you look like a gay serial killer.
Well, the theme to the night was cyber/industrial, so... yeah...
I rather not use the mask, but again... theme...
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