Owners of sampler what are your thoughts?

Landser · Post by **Landser** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:31 pm

kineticUk wrote:idrum, Halion, Phatmatik, Impulse, shall I go on ? Well tough look them up yourself, I don't have time to waste

Sure but to claim things you obviously don't even know, you have time...

And hardware doesn't have the restrictions of software and the point is ?

You really get the point of the advantage of Sampler's concept.

kineticUk · Post by **kineticUk** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:48 pm

Landser wrote:
kineticUk wrote:idrum, Halion, Phatmatik, Impulse, shall I go on ? Well tough look them up yourself, I don't have time to waste
Sure but to claim things you obviously don't even know, you have time...
And hardware doesn't have the restrictions of software and the point is ?
You really get the point of the advantage of Sampler's concept.

What..it took you an hour for that ?

Weak as piss as we say in Newcastle.
You must do better than that grasshopper...a

doesn't make what you say sound any cleverer. Go back read the whole topic from the beginning and stop arguing with me for arguments sake.
Very disappointing. Crap debate, next time don't waste mine.
Bye Bye.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:49 pm

Machinate wrote:
Pitch Black wrote:I would like to see Sampler have some kind of auto-create patch, or auto-keymapping of samples, so if you drag in a whole bunch of samples at once, or a folder, you get the option to automatically lay them out one sample per key, all at original pitch.

Like the EXS24's Import Multiple Samples-Chromatic feature.
Right-click in the key zone editor and select distribute samples But you already knew that...

That doesn't seem to do what I described. I drag in a bunch of samples into the Zone Editor, select "ditribute zones equally" but it put all samples accross all keys, not one sample per key.

Non-comprendy my Dansk friend. What am I doing wrong?

Adonis · Post by **Adonis** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:54 pm

Non-comprendy my Dansk friend. What am I doing wrong?

Speaking of Belgium - hey do you know Ortin Cam...everything that guy touches is off the hook right now

wow

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Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:57 pm

monoschall wrote: Works for the 'vel' view but not for 'Key'. Have sent Ableton Support a message about this.

Ah! So this is a bug, then? Cos its really holding me back. I'm making my patches in Logic/EXS and importing them to Sampler ATM.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:01 pm

Pitch Black wrote:
Machinate wrote:
Pitch Black wrote:I would like to see Sampler have some kind of auto-create patch, or auto-keymapping of samples, so if you drag in a whole bunch of samples at once, or a folder, you get the option to automatically lay them out one sample per key, all at original pitch.

Like the EXS24's Import Multiple Samples-Chromatic feature.
Right-click in the key zone editor and select distribute samples But you already knew that...
That doesn't seem to do what I described. I drag in a bunch of samples into the Zone Editor, select "ditribute zones equally" but it put all samples accross all keys, not one sample per key.

Non-comprendy my Dansk friend. What am I doing wrong?

Aha... welll... you aren't dragging in 128 samples then...

..carry on. (gets coat)

Mike Goodwin · Post by **Mike Goodwin** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:19 am

*sits back*

........... throws a bag of popcorn in the micro

henrico · Post by **henrico** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:03 pm

no timestretching (eh, the only place where you don't have time stretching in live is in the two samplers..).

Why dont we have this - it's already possible in live clips. Why?

Ian F · Post by **Ian F** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:44 pm

Pitch Black wrote:
Machinate wrote:
Pitch Black wrote:I would like to see Sampler have some kind of auto-create patch, or auto-keymapping of samples, so if you drag in a whole bunch of samples at once, or a folder, you get the option to automatically lay them out one sample per key, all at original pitch.

Like the EXS24's Import Multiple Samples-Chromatic feature.
Right-click in the key zone editor and select distribute samples But you already knew that...
That doesn't seem to do what I described. I drag in a bunch of samples into the Zone Editor, select "ditribute zones equally" but it put all samples accross all keys, not one sample per key.

Non-comprendy my Dansk friend. What am I doing wrong?

I used the distribute samples function in sampler a few days ago and it worked fine. They were from a CM magazine Free Samples DVD, I think what makes the difference is that each sample had the note name in its title like 'Piano C#2.wav' either that or the root note value was embedded in the file.

gerard · Post by **gerard** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:19 pm

I tried both reason's Recycle and live's Sampler in their demoversions.
Pro Sampler: it's integrated in Live, easy to create new sounds
Pro Recycle : better for beat slicing and multisampling

Is this statement approved by the Federal Ableton Community ?!

I want to buy one, I just need a few more comments of you guys to decide which one. Right now I tend to Recycle but maybe I've overseen/overheard something...

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:52 pm

gerard wrote:I tried both reason's Recycle and live's Sampler in their demoversions.
Pro Sampler: it's integrated in Live, easy to create new sounds
Pro Recycle : better for beat slicing and multisampling

Is this statement approved by the Federal Ableton Community ?!

I want to buy one, I just need a few more comments of you guys to decide which one. Right now I tend to Recycle but maybe I've overseen/overheard something...

Uhm, I didn't know that recycle was even a sampler?!? Isn't it just for cutting up sounds?
Just checked, even the latest version doesn't load as a sampler, you would need to use reason as well... not a nice solution, if you asked me.

bonomius · Post by **bonomius** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:05 pm

The distribute samples function works only with velocity, not with keys!!!
Don't know if it's a bug, but it's still here in the latest beta 6.02.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:09 pm

bonomius wrote:The distribute samples function works only with velocity, not with keys!!!
Don't know if it's a bug, but it's still here in the latest beta 6.02.

I've never tried it for velocity, but note distribution works just fine here, as does it for many other users.

gerard · Post by **gerard** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:16 pm

Machinate wrote:
Uhm, I didn't know that recycle was even a sampler?!? Isn't it just for cutting up sounds?
Just checked, even the latest version doesn't load as a sampler, you would need to use reason as well... not a nice solution, if you asked me.

Well yes, that's the point, recycle without reason isn't a sampler. I own reason so it is possible but I'm not convinced if it's the way to go.
My problem is that I'd like individual layers for each zone, but Kontakt seems to be a monster (in price and learning curve).
I've downloaded Phatmatik and I'm gonna try it out.
I'll keep you posted!

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:27 pm

I've been having a lot of fun with Sampler, especially since I got a keyboard.

Like Operator, having it as an integrated part of like, unlike a VSTi, makes a world of difference to me in terms of playability and ease of use.

Seems a little quirky to still, though...I came up a with a cool patch and saved it. When I reloaded the patch it was not behaving exactly the same as before....

I'm glad I have it though...