Apple Phone: They had me at "Scrolling"...

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:01 pm

I think this is really cool myself, surprised people here aren't reading between the lines from a musician's point of view.

It's the first portable device with a multi-touch screen.

It runs OSX.

If you can't see the possibilities here, please continue complaining.

Oh yeah, I use Cingular now (since they were CellOne actually) and have no problems with them.

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:03 pm

Some people would complain if you hung 'em with a new rope...

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:06 pm

hambone1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what the clone-makers come up with now that Apple has set yet another standard.

Damn... shoulda kept that Apple stock I sold in 1991...

It's not too late. They're pretty much just getting started.
Gotta get your cake before Jobs gets killed by a turtleneck.

"Today we have some really neat... Caugh... urghhh...aggghhh grmm&@#ç!ç!é&'§hhhhh....... I-died....."

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:16 pm

Uggghhhh.....

I can't imagine it keeping up the same exponential growth as over the last 4 years.

Shoma · Post by **Shoma** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:35 pm

hambone1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what the clone-makers come up with now that Apple has set yet another standard.

Damn... shoulda kept that Apple stock I sold in 1991...

JEEZ! You had stocks of Apple back in 1991

With little money you could be the richest man on this board

buzzcock · Post by **buzzcock** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:39 pm

if it's intel based, shouldn't it run windows too?

Then with enough games it could be a PSP kller as well!

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:00 pm

Intel based? Huh?

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:05 pm

Tarekith wrote:Intel based? Huh?

its probably got ARM or XSCALE

can probably run Windows Mobile with some hacks.

its a nice os job and design job on existing tech

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:48 pm

It could be PPC...

Seriously, though, I'm not sure it's even as "OS X" as they say it is. If those apps are just standard widgets, all they really need is WebCore, which Nokia already use for their smartphone browsers. OS X is portable, so they've could've moved it, but from a performance perspective, I doubt they will have done so... They just made it look like it.

What will make or break it for the geeks, I think, is 3rd party apps. As a fashion accessory, I think it's pretty much a gived that they'll sell a couple.

As for going with Cingular, I think they had to go with one service provider, as the voice mail-as-e-mail thing needs support from there, so...

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:02 pm

hambone1 wrote:It will be interesting to see what the clone-makers come up with now that Apple has set yet another standard.

Damn... shoulda kept that Apple stock I sold in 1991...

Can you imagine what the third party Griffins, Belkins, etc. etc. are p-lanning on coming up with? The accesories for this thing are going to be insane!

Sold the stock in 1991? Yeah, I don';t think anyone who bought stock in Apple during the 80's would have anticipated anything like the imac taking off let alone the ipod and now iphone. If the stock increased by over 1000% since that time, can you imagine what our bank accoutns would look like now?

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:06 pm

buzzcock wrote:if it's intel based, shouldn't it run windows too?

Then with enough games it could be a PSP kller as well!

The processor hasn't been selected. Since OSX is built on FreeBSD, it's easy to port it to a wide number of platforms (as already show by apple).

I should also mention that I did some extra poking around in Xcode 3.0 and the leopard beta that I've got, and there are no tools at all for porting to other architectures, other than PPC and x86 (though 64 bit support seems to have been improved). It's clear that apple doesn't want to make tihs information public yet, for whatever reason.

I'll put down a 10$ bet on it being an ARM device, though. Just seems like the natural choice.

noisetonepause · Post by **noisetonepause** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:14 pm

sqook wrote:
buzzcock wrote:if it's intel based, shouldn't it run windows too?

Then with enough games it could be a PSP kller as well!
The processor hasn't been selected. Since OSX is built on FreeBSD, it's easy to port it to a wide number of platforms (as already show by apple).

I should also mention that I did some extra poking around in Xcode 3.0 and the leopard beta that I've got, and there are no tools at all for porting to other architectures, other than PPC and x86 (though 64 bit support seems to have been improved). It's clear that apple doesn't want to make tihs information public yet, for whatever reason.

I'll put down a 10$ bet on it being an ARM device, though. Just seems like the natural choice.

10$ says it's a PPC e600 core just to spite me.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:23 pm

genshi wrote:And to Kabuki the biggest basher, if Jobs said he wasn't going to make a PDA (even though Apple had one of the earlist PDAs with the Newton), he probably meant a straight-forward PDA because he knew that cellphones and PDAs would eventually converge and that's why he waited to make the iPhone. Most people don't buy PDAs anymore because Smartphones can cover those needs, and the iPhone is the next evolutionary step...

Looks like you are the idiot, Ms. Genshi. Read the thread title: Never said I didn't like the iPhone. I never said anything that wasn't true and straight from Jobs mouth. As far as "bashing" goes, I think I have a very valid point in their choosing to partner with anyone. If they partnered with T-Mobile, my service, I would think it incredibly foolish as well. I love the product. I think it is possibly the biggest technical innovation since the laptop (iPods, after all, eren't really very necessary, just really cool). But a spade is a spade. Even Jobs is wrong from time to time (multi-button mice, PDAs) as well as right (GUI design, iPods, UNIX kernel-based OS).

He got the product very right this time. Way right.

He got the "Partnership" part wrong. WAY wrong.

period.

simpleton · Post by **simpleton** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:40 pm

This is a very innovative device but Jobs has overlooked one huge marketing detail... this is gonna be an iPod killer! Who's gonna pay $400 for an iPod Video now?

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:52 pm

simpleton wrote:This is a very innovative device but Jobs has overlooked one huge marketing detail... this is gonna be an iPod killer! Who's gonna pay $400 for an iPod Video now?

People who need more than 8 gigs of memory space.

I am kind of surprised that they didn't drop a wide screen, multitouch iPod-only capable unit. Folks have been screaming for that one for a long time. Kind of makes the Zune (gag) look a bit nicer . I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Apple Phone: They had me at "Scrolling"...

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