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dango wrote:Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO are next on my list. I hear they are some of the best. Their frequency response is between 5 - 35,000 Hz which is beyond what the human ear can hear

I've got these and they are really good. The main thing is the flatness of the response. I can trust these to give me an accurate portrait of the mix as it actually is.

Well, it seems like nobody else here uses the Shure's E3 in ear monitors...at first they are a bit uncomfortable but once you get used to them...they rock the house...

some ideas

http://headroom.headphone.com/

headroom is a pretty good site, as are the forums you get to from there, although probably more hi-fi than studio biased.

I would say any of these would do you:
- Sennheiser HD 600 or 650
- Beyerdynamic DT 880
- Beyerdynamic DT 770
- Ultrasone PRO 650 or 750 (or possibly DJ1 Pro)

Haven't heard any AKG's. Haven't heard the 770, but have heard good things, and it's closed. Bass is supposed to be a bit hyped, but I never understand how headphones can produce a really accurate bass with such small drivers (although some can do so pretty well).
Both Senn's are open, some pretty well respected people use them as a second monitor. Very detailed.
Beyerdynamic DT 880 likewise. I want a pair of these.
Ultrasone 650 I have a pair of. Some people are not keen on these, but I find them pretty detailed, very comfortable, pretty good imaging, and closed. Best pair of closed phone's I reckon (well, 750 are better, but pricier), with DT 770's the nearest competition (hell, might even be better, since I've not heard them). I know some who know's a hell of a lot more than me who is happy with the DJ1 Pro for production, so I suspect they're pretty accurate too.

The bumps you get at high frequencies are related to the funny shapes of your ear canal, and the fact that headphones are pointing directly down it, unlike any sound you hear naturally. They should ideally cancel out to zero, but are not proof of wackness as they would be for if they were the freq chart for a monitor. Of course, charts only show partial information (e.g. not how dynamic a 'phone is, how well transients are dealt with) so you really need, if possible (and it can be hard) to listen to the ones you want to try.

Most mixing engineers of any experience will fall between, "use with a little caution, check on monitors" to "tracking only", and they probably know better than me. But I will say that for £150 spent on headphones, you can get much truer (like, so far beyond that it's a joke) sound than from a £150 pair of monitors (I don't think you can get monitors for that, I certainly wouldn't want them), and you wil not have to worry about the sound of your room.

This thread is basicaly like asking "what headphones do you use?", but whatever.. I love my AKG K271s, and I highly recommend them

I've been a Sennheiser fan for many years and I'm using HD600 for listening and mixing. From the brief test I did with HD650 I couldn't really hear any difference between the two. They both sound amazing and are really comfy to wear even if you use them for several hours. They do, however, not work for recording since they are open, so when recording I use Audio Technica's ATH-M50 and I'm very pleased with them. They sound very good, better than AKG K270/271 according to a few friends of mine, but I have no experience with K270/271 so I don't have an opinion. The downside is that they are closed and, like all closed headphones, aren't comfy to wear for extended periods of time. At least not in my opinion.

Like with monitors you need to try different headphones yourself and form your own opinion.

GRADO SR80s are incredible
surprised they are not mentioned more often...

mmmm, do love Grado's. My SR-60s are now "bath headphones" ... become hind of obsolete due to new purchases, but I refuse to sell them.

Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:This thread is basicaly like asking "what headphones do you use?", but whatever.. I love my AKG K271s, and I highly recommend them

Hehe. You´re right. Just got my Audio Technica ATH-M50´s today. And they sound and feel fantastic. Recomended

those beyerdynamic 770s look comfortable - are they lightweight?

timothyallan wrote:Anyone have any good online deals for a pair of HD650s?

I've used Headroom on two occasions. Good prices, online only store. 650's for $450.

Question for those with the AKG271S...

Is there any way to temporaily switch off the cut off switch in the headband so that they DONT mute when they aint on you head properly?

Most of the time I do want this behaviour (around mics etc), however there are times when I dont want it.


BTW - anyone using the AKG K 181 DJ cans? Can you recommended them for DJing/Live sets?

beyer dynamics by far.

by way far the best

DT 770 Pro

GRADO SR-125!!!!!!!!!

GRADO beats every other headphone i've listened to

even got a pair of iGRADOs for the ipod