Ed Banger / SebastiAn

jez3122 · Post by **jez3122** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:20 pm

Hi,
i couldn't agree more with your comment about needing to keep our singularities m8,
We all are influenced by many artists throughout our lives and myself personally love the ed banger boys and have taken onboard some of there technique's but i don't think it's wrong to do so,
i'm never gonna sound like justice, just because they are only 1 of many artists that inspire me. i think thats how music in general moves forward and new genre's are born.
so i think it's not a brick in the same wall but we are building the same house(no pun intended)
and yes i probably would buy a Ed banger magical plug-in

formatk · Post by **formatk** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:42 pm

I was on Video iChat to my friend yesterday and she introduced me to Uffie.... man, she's cute!

jez3122 · Post by **jez3122** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:40 pm

formatk wrote:I was on Video iChat to my friend yesterday and she introduced me to Uffie.... man, she's cute!

+1

peter181 · Post by **peter181** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:27 pm

introduced as in "check out uffie" or as in "this is my friend uffie she'll also be video ichatting with us today"?

has anyone in the us been able to pick up the new oizo single yet?

formatk · Post by **formatk** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:20 pm

peter181 wrote:introduced as in "check out uffie" or as in "this is my friend uffie she'll also be video ichatting with us today"?

has anyone in the us been able to pick up the new oizo single yet?

My friend was DJing with her in Stockholm, so yes video chat with her... bit of a drunken one actually, but I won't say any more or I'll get myself into trouble.

peeddrroo · Post by **peeddrroo** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:26 pm

regarding copying/reproducing the sound of someone you like, i think it's definitely a good idea. if you manage to do it, it means you can do more/different/better.
to me it's a bit like practicing scales.

and yeah, uffie's cute and the new oizo is really good. please make sure to check out the soundtrack of "Steak" (oizo's movie). it's really really good.

musikgod · Post by **musikgod** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:41 am

so, does anyone have any techniques theyve been trying with or without success that they care to share??

-m

theque · Post by **theque** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:46 am

peeddrroo nice to see you got a fist up in the album liner from justice,

awesome album everyone should give this one a listen

deklin · Post by **deklin** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:57 am

Justice actually use Pro Tools and Garageband for their sequencing. Theres no trick, just zoom in and chop up. it's all in the production. They probly run it from PT to sexy hardware and do the production on racks.

brightonalex · Post by **brightonalex** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:47 am

A lot of the tracks on the Justice album, and also on Simian Mobile Disco, seem to be made up of a big analogue bass, a tight drum loop and not too much else. Perhaps its the lack of too much extra stuff that makes the tracks catchy?

smartass303 · Post by **smartass303** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:30 am

In Live its just soooo easy.
A) Get the Track you wanna sample in the arrangement view. Zoom to 1 or 2 Bars.
B) Chop where you wanna chop.
C) Warp the chop, Loop the chop.
D) Now you can literally "scrub" through the Track (in the clip view) searching for the sections you wanna use
E) Sidechain Compress the Shit out of the sample

There you go,

303

Gonna see Justice tonight in Hamburg. Maybe i can sneak peep their stuff, i love their music (<powerful). Big up peeedro! Krazy Baldhead is also veeeeery Koooool, probably all the ed Banger stuff. Paris rules!

brightonalex · Post by **brightonalex** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:45 am

I followed the tutorial on Sidechain compression (using a free downloaded compressor) and it didn't work.

You don't know of an easy guide that works do you? Thanks!

armchair · Post by **armchair** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:51 am

yeah, i concur with all of the above regarding sidechaining and chopping. i think in the case of sebastian the real magic comes from those intangible snips of samples that create the shuffles and accents between the kick and snare hits. the ed banger guys have definitely been a major influence on our productions so far. we've got some tunes up at http://www.myspace.com/runhidesurvivedjs i'd be interested to know what you guys think of them.

ta

mike

musikgod · Post by **musikgod** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:54 pm

thanks smartass. nice name hehe. I know what youre saying, I actually use that technique a lot. But I feel like there is something more going on wiht my ears. Something much simpler, rather than chopping and editing piece by piece. I've been toying around with the mgtriggergate, and have gotten some interesting results. In that i can take a full live bassline, and then put the triggergate on it and only let the bass thru when i want, at short snippets of sound. The only problem with this is the mgtriggergate does not allow me to make patterns longer than 1 bar (i think). Another thing Ive been thinking is a lot of the rhythms I hear seem to always work very OFF the beat...but still in an organized way. I feel like I could sequence a very swingey off-beat pattern (32nds? triplet-based?) in, and then from that pattern, control a sampler track (in live 6), and just start replacing samples on certain keys within the sequence. Also playing with the END point of each of these samples. This all works in theory (in my head).

The whole sidechain thing - been doing this for years, and it does tend to lend that sound, but the sidechain is more like quick dives and rises in volume, whereas the sound I'm thinking of is more just ON/OFF really quick - hence the mgtriggergate idea.

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO 'PLAY' A MUTE BUTTON? For example: I'd want to set a key to the mute button on a track - when i press the key it mutes, BUT WHEN I RELEASE THE KEY IT UNMUTES??? Cant seem to rig this up. If I could so this, essentially i could do triggergating myself - playing it like a synth. I used to do this with my old electribes - take an existing bassline from somewhere else, run it thru the audio in of the electribe, and then sequence patterns in with the audio in - which is really just a MUTE/UNMUTE type of thing...but i cant find a way to do this in live.

Lots of thoughts here, sorry...

armchair · Post by **armchair** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:18 pm

i suspect there's also a lot of the dblue glitch plugin in some of the ed banger music. notably in the recent oizo production, though much of the same effects can be easily achieved in pro tools.