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kabuki wrote:Fortunate Son - CCR

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Machinesworking wrote:

Tone Deft wrote:by '70 so many people heard about it SF was overrun, the feds got involved, drugs ran their course, the party was over. the ideas are still around, but it had to be a weird time. the beats were more interesting.

The beats were more fashion oriented on some levels and more intellectual, but the blending between the two was pretty fluid. My dad started out beatnick, and ended up hippy, it was a natural progression. We left SF in about 70, basically because my parents felt the hard drug scene that took over didn't make a good environment for raising a family.

a monologue near the close of fear and loathing captures the decline of the hippies well:

Hunter S. Thompson wrote:We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled that 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel.

Don;t get me wrong, I like Hunter S. thompson, but I don't think he's a great example of a fluid analytical mind capable of making logical and healthy evaluations of his generation. I read that quote, and think more about how well it relates to his own personal demons, and his eventual suicide.
The central illusion that the hippy generation lived under that caused their failure was that they actually thought that hedonism was some sort of vehicle for social change, that taking drugs and partying would lead to social change. The average conservative had plenty of fuel for his/her disgust in what was offered. The fact remains that some of the most popular spokespeople in the music scene overdosed and painted that image of the "alternative" to being a square etc.
Not unlike in total opposite terms how a good percentage of the straight edge movement in the punk scene substituted aggressive violence for drugs and alienated the average person who might otherwise think they were on to something interesting.

forge wrote:

kabuki wrote:Fortunate Son - CCR

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+1

and born on the bayou and run in the jungle

CCR are legendary

ethios4 wrote:Grateful Dead - "Ripple"
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ethios4 wrote:Grateful Dead - "Ripple"
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feyshay wrote:People who don't understand the Dead, don't understand "hippy".
Best hippy song--Scarlet Begonias--Grateful Dead

nate_D wrote:man i didn't realize there were sooo many classic rock headz up in this mofo. scarlet begonias or me and my uncle ftw.