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I'm going to tell you something plain and simple RIGHT now.

I am one of those token ass niggas you are talking about and I will fuck you up and any white people like your black ass. Motherfucka you are whats wrong with the world. look at you basing everything you think and feel on what some white people do. the music I do is my music point blank you cowboy troy as motherfucka.... if i want to do country your punk ass better not come up and try and stop me talkin your racist bullshit cause I will fuck you up.
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now that is what my first thoughts were to respond to you, but I thought about it and I want to contribute to something better, so this is what I have to say. fuck trying to be a black elvis or a black donald trump, aspire to be yourself and nothing less. ownership of anything on this planet based on someones color of skin is wrong, nothing to aspire to, nothing to be proud of. what you are pointing out is something wrong in our world and in our society today. don't be a follower just because other people do something doesn't mean that it's right.

here's an example

do you put your money where your color is?
many many people do that right......well doing you think only buying latino is right?
do you think only buying white is right?
do you think only buying jewish or indian is right?............
alot of people do, alot of people are wrong. you know what you should do with your money, you should buy respectable, buy honest, buy from somone who does a good job or provides a good service. you shouldn't not buy a service or a product from a black person because they are black and instead buy from someone that has the same skin color as themselves. thats bullshit and that is wrong.
but its done quite alot isn't it, there's no integrity there whatsoever in that ideal.

don't let what people do based on the color of their skin and music be the blue print for how you live or for what you aspire to because it's just as wrong. you're lookin at society and trying to make what you see the justification for what you do, fuck them that shit is wrong, be right on your own, don't let society decide for you what is right, because they are wrong.
do you understand what I'm saying.


hiphop is what you live

rap is what you do

black is a color

human is a race

EgAD wrote:I'm going to tell you something plain and simple RIGHT now.

I am one of those token ass niggas you are talking about and I will fuck you up and any white people like your black ass. Motherfucka you are whats wrong with the world. look at you basing everything you think and feel on what some white people do. the music I do is my music point blank you cowboy troy as motherfucka.... if i want to do country your punk ass better not come up and try and stop me talkin your racist bullshit cause I will fuck you up.
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now that is what my first thoughts were to respond to you, but I thought about it and I want to contribute to something better,...

Great because I was so ready to write you off as EvilEvil's 3rd twin cousin.

EgAD wrote: so this is what I have to say. fuck trying to be a black elvis or a black donald trump, aspire to be yourself and nothing less. ownership of anything on this planet based on someones color of skin is wrong, nothing to aspire to, nothing to be proud of. what you are pointing out is something wrong in our world and in our society today. don't be a follower just because other people do something doesn't mean that it's right.

That makes absolutely zero sense. By that logic you're saying that no culture should have a right to celebrate its heritage. No seriously...think about it. My mother is Dominican and you can be damn sure that whenever there's a "Puerto Rican Day Parade" in Philly...which is really a parade for all Hispanics...she's right there celebrating her culture. I usually attend the parade in NY where ALL RACES tend to show up, but every last race respects the fact that they are participating in Hispanic/Latino celebrations WHICH INCLUDES OUR MUSIC.


Why in the hell wouldn't you want to be proud of your heritage? Why does it make me an ass to follow in the traditions of MY PEOPLE? Celebrating your heritage is claiming OWNERSHIP is it not?

EgAD wrote:
here's an example

do you put your money where your color is?
many many people do that right......well doing you think only buying latino is right?
do you think only buying white is right?
do you think only buying jewish or indian is right?............
alot of people do, alot of people are wrong. you know what you should do with your money, you should buy respectable, buy honest, buy from somone who does a good job or provides a good service. you shouldn't not buy a service or a product from a black person because they are black and instead buy from someone that has the same skin color as themselves. thats bullshit and that is wrong.
but its done quite alot isn't it, there's no integrity there whatsoever in that ideal.

See...you're gonna have a lotta ignorant and illiterate muphukas thinking that I'M CLAIMING THAT WHITES SHOULD ONLY BUY WHITE. WHICH WASN'T EVEN THE TOPIC OF THIS DEBATE TO BEGIN WITH. Who said this? When? I don't even know where this shit came from? Be careful not to put words in other people's "writing" because you know "niggaz" regardless of color can't read. I will tell you this much...

I HAVE NO ISSUES ADMITTING TO SUPPORTING BLACK BUSINESS. I wish a muphuka would argue against this. Unless we're talking about Sylvia's in Harlem, black business usually doesn't thrive unless black people support it. That is the cold hard truth of black business. Forget the cliches, "Green is the only color that matters"...nope...

Black business, especially small black businesses, fail without the support of its community. The same goes for Muslim businesses..Jewish businesses...you could never make that claim in New York. It's not that we're that segregated that we would never go into each other's neighborhoods to purchase anything...there just isn't ENOUGH of us spreading the wealth equally to ensure that our businesses survive. If you don't support your own first....

Then you end up with shit like a Pakistanis liquor store on every corner with a hair extension store right next door...that's owned by Koreans. We could get extremely deep on this topic...but we can save that for tomorrow.

EgAD wrote: don't let what people do based on the color of their skin and music be the blue print for how you live or for what you aspire to because it's just as wrong. you're lookin at society and trying to make what you see the justification for what you do, fuck them that shit is wrong, be right on your own, don't let society decide for you what is right, because they are wrong.
do you understand what I'm saying.

I understand that you expect me to change my position that hip hop is black music. I've gotta ask you though...

How come no one ever argues that R&B isn't black music?

I know why...you know why...what I really don't know is exactly what point you're trying to make.

EgAD wrote: hiphop is what you live

rap is what you do

black is a color

human is a race

And the cliche speech still doesn't explain why I shouldn't be proud of my heritage. Seriously there is JUST SOMETHING that pisses people off when blacks claim hip hop as their music. No one argues against Spain's claim to Flamenco...Indian Sangeet...Mesopotamian Art...St. Patrick's Day,...


But a dude will argue his ass off against blacks claim to hip hop. I can see arguing against France's claim to french fries, but the last time I checked hip hop was first created by African/Carribean Americans right?


Why are you so offended by this?