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Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:57 pm
by Rogue Scrunt
too much BLUE penis

other than that, this movie is pure cinema magic

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:08 pm
by ikeaboy
8O wrote:So... just came back from watching it.

And... hmmmm...

Some :) some :( but mostly :| I'm afraid.

Very well cast - especially Rorschach and Nite Owl, liked the music, good effects and action, and some bits were changed to make more sense than in the book. But to me, it just felt like flicking through the book really fast and superficially and it never really touched me deeply at all, unlike the book. So, I think it was a fair attempt, but maybe the capturing the book's greatness is just not possible in 2 hours.

10/20
My thoughts as well. I'm now of the opinion a less stringent interpretation would have served the story better on screen. A for effort but for a book I love it doesn't work for me as a film.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:10 pm
by nebulae
I never read the comic. But I thought the movie was really really good. Sure it had it's flaws, but what do you expect when you're trying to flesh out six major characters, a love triangle, the end of the world, AND Richard Nixon in 2.75 hours? It's very hard to do, but I think it did so with a lot of style and charisma.

Buttom line is that this isn't about superheroes. It's about vigilantes and one blue demigod. So once you get over that, this becomes a story about human nature, violence, war, and the darkness that exists in all of us. The choices people make, and their repercussions are felt deeply, and by the end, you have gone through a bizarre journey. Everything that a dark and epic comic should stir up in people.

Highly recommended (if you're someone who likes to think).

Oh, one other thing...I think if there was a giant squid at the end of it, it would TOTALLY DESTROY ALL CREDIBILITY. That would make me LOL@Watchmen.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:19 pm
by STRATEGY_510
nebulae wrote:I never read the comic. But I thought the movie was really really good. Sure it had it's flaws, but what do you expect when you're trying to flesh out six major characters, a love triangle, the end of the world, AND Richard Nixon in 2.75 hours? It's very hard to do, but I think it did so with a lot of style and charisma.

Buttom line is that this isn't about superheroes. It's about vigilantes and one blue demigod. So once you get over that, this becomes a story about human nature, violence, war, and the darkness that exists in all of us. The choices people make, and their repercussions are felt deeply, and by the end, you have gone through a bizarre journey. Everything that a dark and epic comic should stir up in people.

Highly recommended (if you're someone who likes to think).

Oh, one other thing...I think if there was a giant squid at the end of it, it would TOTALLY DESTROY ALL CREDIBILITY. That would make me LOL@Watchmen.
I like that much of the dialogue was included word for word from the comic.

I really liked the movie overall, go see it in Imax, you won't be dissapointed.

STRATEGY

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:45 pm
by pulsoc
nebulae wrote:I never read the comic. But I thought the movie was really really good. Sure it had it's flaws, but what do you expect when you're trying to flesh out six major characters, a love triangle, the end of the world, AND Richard Nixon in 2.75 hours? It's very hard to do, but I think it did so with a lot of style and charisma.

Buttom line is that this isn't about superheroes. It's about vigilantes and one blue demigod. So once you get over that, this becomes a story about human nature, violence, war, and the darkness that exists in all of us. The choices people make, and their repercussions are felt deeply, and by the end, you have gone through a bizarre journey. Everything that a dark and epic comic should stir up in people.

Highly recommended (if you're someone who likes to think).

Oh, one other thing...I think if there was a giant squid at the end of it, it would TOTALLY DESTROY ALL CREDIBILITY. That would make me LOL@Watchmen.
Saw it last night, and I agree with your assessment. And the giant squid at the end only made sense in the book because there was a lot more room to explore Veidt's research into genetics and psychology.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:06 pm
by STRATEGY_510
pulsoc wrote:
Saw it last night, and I agree with your assessment. And the giant squid at the end only made sense in the book because there was a lot more room to explore Veidt's research into genetics and psychology.
I couldn't figure out why the squid ending was more believable in the comic context but would've been completely ridiculous had the movie done it.

I think you nailed it.

STRATEGY

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:00 am
by andrewbrewer
loved it will watch again ... some of the music cues were odd but gutsy

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:25 am
by nebulae
^ agreed! The music has some strange and jarring moments, but overall very well done, especially the use of classic rock.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:03 am
by djadonis206
Yes

See it at IMAX
Too much blue penis - notice he's wearing underwear in Vietnam...but everywhere else? C'mon!

Anywayz, never read the comic book but I liked the movie

Can't wait to add the DVD or Blu-Ray to my collection...

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:03 am
by Darwinist
djadonis206 wrote:Yes
Too much blue penis - notice he's wearing underwear in Vietnam...but everywhere else? C'mon!
In the comic, Dr. Manhattan's abandonment of clothing is more gradual - the Pentagon actually outfit him with a snazzy uniform when they first introduce him to the public. His eventual descent into nudism(from full-sized uniform to Vietnam-era shorts to full blue penis brilliance) is one facet of his disassociation with his fading humanity. What importance does vulgar human "decency" have to someone like him?

They could have explained it better, but that always comes around to the central problem of this movie - it's a movie.

I agree with Terry Gilliam(who was briefly attached to an aborted late-90s attempt at filming Watchmen), who commented that to properly film this thing, you would have to do it as a television miniseries of at least five hours.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:59 pm
by Geezus
djadonis206 wrote:Yes

See it at IMAX
Too much blue penis - notice he's wearing underwear in Vietnam...but everywhere else? C'mon!
OMG people, grow up. This is how it is in the book and it makes sense considering his disassociation with the frivolous nature of human civilization. Half of the world has a penis, might as well get used to it.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:33 pm
by timothyallan
I have one, and only occasionally it turns blue.


Great movie btw, saw it at IMAX. Wife hated it, but I really dug it. Both of us had never read the book.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:51 pm
by stringtapper
Just started reading the book for the first time last night. Really digging it, can't believe I missed it as much as I was into comics as a kid. Waiting to see the movie sometime this week.

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:40 pm
by logic_user99
pulsoc wrote:
nebulae wrote:I never read the comic. But I thought the movie was really really good. Sure it had it's flaws, but what do you expect when you're trying to flesh out six major characters, a love triangle, the end of the world, AND Richard Nixon in 2.75 hours? It's very hard to do, but I think it did so with a lot of style and charisma.

Buttom line is that this isn't about superheroes. It's about vigilantes and one blue demigod. So once you get over that, this becomes a story about human nature, violence, war, and the darkness that exists in all of us. The choices people make, and their repercussions are felt deeply, and by the end, you have gone through a bizarre journey. Everything that a dark and epic comic should stir up in people.

Highly recommended (if you're someone who likes to think).

Oh, one other thing...I think if there was a giant squid at the end of it, it would TOTALLY DESTROY ALL CREDIBILITY. That would make me LOL@Watchmen.
Saw it last night, and I agree with your assessment. And the giant squid at the end only made sense in the book because there was a lot more room to explore Veidt's research into genetics and psychology.
I think these two posts sum up my views on the movie! I really enjoyed it; Mrs Logic, not so much. I really like the book, but not to a crazed fan-boy level.

At the end of the day, it could have been SO much worse; ZS could have '300ed' it, and for that he would have to have been killed!

Re: Watchmen

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:09 pm
by Kodama
It was awkward and messy and long.

I liked it.