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Why should we have used this software before talking about it? This thread is for forum users who haven't used BW. Isnt' it? Everyone is talking about it based on same information. Some praise blindly, some suspect the possibility. Nothing restricts argument. Why are you trying to controll this topic's discussion? Your attitude almost tells we shouldn't disscuss about BW's possible factors of plagiarism but should praise blindly (you said we just looked at screenshots of Bitwig Studio).

All I can really say about the GUI looking the same as live is:
Try to make a live skin that looks like bitwig!

I tried it, and, you come acros a lot of things that are different in more ways you could imagine!

Therefore I believe BW is not live 9 in disguise, but a new contender at the table.

You've all gone mental. waiting for Live 9 has done some terrible things to people.

so is the beta out yet ?

is this relevant ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIACPr5XEQM

wow...I love that play... !!! good find !!!

JuanSOLO wrote:

Poster wrote:.
this is how BW describes it..

An audio clip can contain multiple audio events.
You can chop and edit audio files inside a clip non-destructively and loop it all as a package.

I read that before, I guess it just puzzles my imagination somwhat. To me it seems to indicate a new idea of what a clip actually is. GEEZ so curious about this freaking beta, SO many questions.

It very looks like an audio container in fact.
That would be a great point, avoiding the consolidation stuff in a way.
you can use it on One audio clip to really cut slices and rearrange at wish. the greatness would be that users can use several filters they want inside one container [pitch, beats, complex]

Hey that's just speculation, we'll see at the beta

Soon 2 betas will be available.

The neverending Live8 beta
The new coming Bitwig beta.

German are good for providing good Digital Audio Workstations... They rock!

mholloway wrote:

skatr2 wrote:Kinda strange the reactions here. A whole lot of people overreacting to how it looks, both from the camp of those who complain it looks too much like ableton to those who want to jump ship JUST based on how it looks. A different GUI isnt gonna make the software...just something to make you need to relearn a workflow.

Most folks are discussing / conjecturing about the product's *specific functionality* based on the screenshots and the various devices, tools and workflow presented therein. I don't think anybody here is saying they would jump ship because the GUI looks neat.

-M

yeah but outside of a handful of features they advertised/announced, what is really going on is just speculation over jpegs. no sense churching it up. it could be three more years until something useable comes out of BWS.

It very looks like an audio container in fact.
That would be a great point, avoiding the consolidation stuff in a way.
you can use it on One audio clip to really cut slices and rearrange at wish. the greatness would be that users can use several filters they want inside one container [pitch, beats, complex]

Hey that's just speculation, we'll see at the beta

They didn't invent this feature you know, it's been in cubase since a long time.
But it certainly can come in handy.

yes that's conforting my vision of it:

A gathering of the strong parts from many daws... not only Ableton Live

NRJay wrote:

It very looks like an audio container in fact.
That would be a great point, avoiding the consolidation stuff in a way.
you can use it on One audio clip to really cut slices and rearrange at wish. the greatness would be that users can use several filters they want inside one container [pitch, beats, complex]

Hey that's just speculation, we'll see at the beta

They didn't invent this feature you know, it's been in cubase since a long time.
But it certainly can come in handy.

this means that you could go beyond the 'one audio source only' restriction of a Session clip..
for the Arranger it's just a handy suitcase..

Hermanus wrote:

JuanSOLO wrote: I read that before, I guess it just puzzles my imagination somwhat. To me it seems to indicate a new idea of what a clip actually is. GEEZ so curious about this freaking beta, SO many questions.

It very looks like an audio container in fact.
That would be a great point, avoiding the consolidation stuff in a way.
you can use it on One audio clip to really cut slices and rearrange at wish. the greatness would be that users can use several filters they want inside one container [pitch, beats, complex]

Sounds like you could finally do things like chop an audio file so it remains as editable audio, like this: http://vimeo.com/8455759
in a "Live clip"-like environment instead of just being sliced to audio being triggered within Drum Racks.

sounds to me like the kind of minimal editing one can do in arrangement view, but inside a clip...

i would hope that BW doesn't require an outside editor, that would be a major fail

simmerdown wrote:i would hope that BW doesn't require an outside editor, that would be a major fail

Hmmm where have I seen this before? Ooh wait, good old abe live!

if live9 still cant edit audio properly, and render multiple formats, i would consider that an epic fail