A Special Thread For myrnova and Funken to Hate America In

[Forge.]

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thanks muchly for bringing this thread back to sanity

[Forge.]

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thanks muchly for bringing this thread back to sanity

actually very much loving this foray back into sanity

[beats me]

The world is run by cunts.

exactement

, the Brits and Americans haven't got the monopoly,always has been, if you think it will ever be any different you are deluded, that's what is so sad about 9v, funky farter or what ever, you can't do anything about it so shut the fuck up and enjoy yourselves

slightly unsure what this means.... who has the monopoly?

I think we're fairly up there... again, I'm questioning what "we" means, considering whoever it is that has the monopoly is not really you or me or anyone we know personally

But I agree that the US will probably continue to be the dominant power on this planet for the foreseeable future because they have total control of the Atlantic and Pacific which are the two main economic powerhouses of the world.

"Our" British predecessors had control of the Atlantic when it was the only ocean that mattered

Now the Pacific is even more important, and the yanks own both now. It was one of the concessions of "lease and lend" in the war.

Point is, a few rich cunts are just carrying on the family business.

And they are using our country to do it with. Not our fucking family.

It's all a big warped fucked up pile o shite

"nationalism" is just a PR/Advertising/Propaganda/Bernays thing used to pit us against each other

As long as countries keep their atrocities within their own borders it’s all good.

[beats me]

Forgot to mention that all atrocities that stay within another country’s borders are fully encouraged, backed, paid for, and celebrated by the US.

When we pay our taxes each year there’s a little box we need to check off on the form that says “I support the oppression of all people globally”.

[regretfullySaid]

That's how Americans get an additional 10% savings on their Wal-Mart Cards!

(It's the original facebook "like")

[myrnova]

The U.S. is a big country (probably to big too be governed properly) and many people have opposing views about war, a lot of people are purposely ignorant and brainwashed but there are also a lot of us who critically examine the news (or just completely reject it) and all information given by the government. I live within the borders of the U.S. so its annoying to read from some one outside of the U.S. telling me that I dont understand that we are being given propaganda on a regular basis. I live here, I understand this and the people that live here pretty well. Im not patriotic for the government at all and I find it ridiculous!

You see, for me the U.S. is not a country. It is an association, like the nazi party was. At the time you did not say "the nazi is a country", you said "the nazi rule germany", "the nazi occupied austria" etc. What you call "a country" (so called U.S.A.) is actually just the territory occupied by this (criminal) association called "U.S.". If you want, so called "America" is a country, but this was owned by the american natives. Infact, when the president of the U.S. (association) claims "god bless america" he means: "god bless this huge territory we occupied, in which we commited a genocide and from where we fuck the world with war, capitalism and pollution". You yourself admit in the "southern USA" people are all racist, pro war and brainwashed. In my opinion, apart from some "european like" cities like seattle, boston, new york and some others, the vast majority of the U.S.A. "states" are still rural, puritan and conservative.

[Jack McOck]

Forge, you are talking to someone who met socialists from other countries before most people on this forum were even born. I'm a Marxist and the first rule of Marxism is that socialism cannot exist in one country, it must be international. The organisation I am a sympathiser of is called the CWI. Google it.

Agreed, the world's problems can be solved by more empire-building. Just as Obama wants to export democracy to the Middle East, so to does funken; only funken wants to put "incompetents" in charge. I'm convinced: THIS PLAN SOUNDS GOLDEN.

[lowshelf]

I'm a Marxist and the first rule of Marxism is that ---

I know this! First rule is you do not talk about Marxism! Right???

---socialism cannot exist in one country, it must be international. The ---

Oh. Too bad.

[myrnova]

I've protested against the British government, and myr has slagged the Italian elite loads of times.

Well, not exactly. For me italians, too, are brainwashed. It is not only about elite. I think italian people are brainwashed by the church corporation and by mafia (berlusconi), which controls almost everything. In the north (where I live) they are brainwashed by racist parties and capitalists. So, I am not that happy about at least 8.000.000 people voting for neofascist party, ignorant people (expecially in the south) who still believe in the god's fairy tale, the pope, the saints and such superstitions. Berlusconi owns 80% of national mass media (tv, movie industry, newspapers etc.). We know what the shitty church corporation commits. If you asked me "what do you thnk about italy and italians" I would answer like "90% shit". It is not about "country", it is about "people brainwashed by bastards" or such. I wonder why americans react in such an aggressive way and my answer is "they are brainwashed". Otherwise they would realize the U.S. are criminals.

[Jack McOck]

Let the record show that funken has confirmed he wants to export democracy world-wide and put incompetents in charge.

And that he has also misread Myrnova, whose English is so understandableableable.

[glenn303]

The U.S. is a big country (probably to big too be governed properly) and many people have opposing views about war, a lot of people are purposely ignorant and brainwashed but there are also a lot of us who critically examine the news (or just completely reject it) and all information given by the government. I live within the borders of the U.S. so its annoying to read from some one outside of the U.S. telling me that I dont understand that we are being given propaganda on a regular basis. I live here, I understand this and the people that live here pretty well. Im not patriotic for the government at all and I find it ridiculous!

Yo ass see, fo' me tha U.S. aint a cold-ass lil ghetto. Well shiiiit, it be a association, like tha nazi jam was fo' realz. At tha time you did not say "the nazi be a cold-ass lil ghetto", you holla'd "the nazi rule germany", "the nazi occupied austria" etc. What you call "a ghetto" (so called U.S.A.) is straight-up just tha territory occupied by dis (criminal) association called "U.S.". If you want, so called "America" be a cold-ass lil ghetto yo, but dis was owned by tha american natives. Infact, when tha prez of tha U.S. (association) fronts "god bless america" he means: "god bless dis big-ass territory we occupied, up in which we commited a genocizzle n' from where we fuck tha ghetto wit war, capitalizzle n' pollution". Yo ass yo ass admit up in tha "southern USA" playas is all racist, pro war n' domewashed. Y'all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! In mah opinion, apart from some "european like" ghettos like seattle, boston, freshly smoked up york n' some others, tha vast majoritizzle of tha U.S.A. "states" is still rural, puritan n' conservative.

[myrnova]

Let the record show that funken has confirmed he wants to export democracy world-wide and put incompetents in charge.

And that he has also misread Myrnova, whose English is so understandableableable.

Mccocky, the fact your english is so perfect and "native speaker" like, does not lenghten your prick It is not an english language price race... It is an international forum

[andydes]

Things like this maybe?

since the crimes the U.S. have been committing are much larger than the ones committed by the nazis.

Or do you agree with this statement?

Not sure really. How has myr caluclated that, numbers killed? America started, fuelled or otherwise played a prominent role in many wars. The cold war was started by the US. You also need to bear in mind that the Nazis relied on US capitalism to get into power and prepare for war. Obviously America is a much better place to live in than Nazi Germany for most people. The other thing myr is including is global warming I think.

I doubt he's calculated anything. But if so can you judge things just on numbers? Even if you do, the Nazis managed quite a big score in a relatively short space of time.

The US has certainly done many shitty things, acting largely on self interest. But I can't think of anything that comes close to the holocaust for shear evil. 9 million Jews exterminated, not on the battlefield or civilians who happened to be the way, but shipped like cattle, used as slaves and executed in the most cold, calculated and efficient way possible. Plus, of course, they were stopped before they could finish the job.

It's easy these days to compare people to Nazis. Happens all the time on the internet. So much that people don't think about what it really means.

The US might have had links to them before they got involved in the war, but they didn't know about the extermination camps and they cannot be held responsible for it.

[myrnova]

9 millions? U.S. propaganda or what?!

[Jack McOck]

9 millions? U.S. propaganda or what?!

Pails in comparison to the USSR et co.'s 100 million death count. Nazism is practically pacifist next to communism.

Wikipedia: Mass killings occurred under some Communist regimes during the twentieth century with an estimated death toll numbering between 85 and 100 million (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killi ... st_regimes)

This figure also kills off any speculation that religion causes war. The non-religious have been far more bellicose.