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Can we please get back on topic about the Big Three: EQ, REVERB, and COMPRESSION?

Thanks!

the US government has already given about 180 billion to AIG. I don't certainly do not think AIG needed that much money. And the car companies want just 35 billion. The cars companies actually sell a product that could be improved on, but why did AIG get all that money and no one else? Why wasn't AIG told to restructure? Americans are being robbed, raped and pissed on by the US government. We are all now being skullfucked by the choices of greedy people.

"We'll strike a match and it'll catch
And spread the insight we need
A tiny fire burning bright
Shedding light on the darkness of greed"

- rage against the machine 'darkness'

massiveheadpain wrote:the US government has already given about 180 billion to AIG. I don't certainly do not think AIG needed that much money. And the car companies want just 35 billion. The cars companies actually sell a product that could be improved on, but why did AIG get all that money and no one else? Why wasn't AIG told to restructure? Americans are being robbed, raped and pissed on by the US government. We are all now being skullfucked by the choices of greedy people.

"We'll strike a match and it'll catch
And spread the insight we need
A tiny fire burning bright
Shedding light on the darkness of greed"

- rage against the machine 'darkness'

Agreed, but by your logic we should continue fucking ourselves by giving handouts to anybody that shows up to Congress in a suit because they asked for less than the last guy. Yes, they do make actual products but so do other companies in the industry that aren't failing and didn't mismanage their people, money, and future long before this recession.

^^ Î don't think he was arguing for the auto bailout, more just sick with the irony of it all.

Open question: Would you prefer to let the big ones (AIG, Citi, Detroit...) fail and have catastrophic systemic collapse? Or give them a massive cash infusion that they don't deserve? Remember, we are talking, like it or not, about the pillars of your world.

I don't know how to answer, BTW.

massiveheadpain wrote:the US government has already given about 180 billion to AIG. I don't certainly do not think AIG needed that much money. And the car companies want just 35 billion. The cars companies actually sell a product that could be improved on, but why did AIG get all that money and no one else? Why wasn't AIG told to restructure? Americans are being robbed, raped and pissed on by the US government. We are all now being skullfucked by the choices of greedy people.

Where did that money actually come from? What product does the gubmint make?

Am I the only one who sees the irony in the Dumocrats championing corporate welfare while the Repugnants rail against these corporations and their myopic CEOs?

pixelbox wrote:Can we please get back on topic about the Big Three: EQ, REVERB, and COMPRESSION?

Thanks!

With pleasure! What compressor should I get for my new UAD card? I've got $850 in credit with them just burning a whole in my pocket!

chrysalis33rpm wrote:^^ Î don't think he was arguing for the auto bailout, more just sick with the irony of it all.

Open question: Would you prefer to let the big ones (AIG, Citi, Detroit...) fail and have catastrophic systemic collapse? Or give them a massive cash infusion that they don't deserve? Remember, we are talking, like it or not, about the pillars of your world.

I don't know how to answer, BTW.

As scary as the initial impact may be I see failure across the board for everybody as the best option. Our corporations are broken beyond repair and we need to quit sticking gum on dam leaks supported by old and bad habits. I have faith that the currently lazy and uninspired americans can rise to the ocassion and rebuild a better structured and organized country. I say let's get it all over with now and start rebuilding. Quit prolonging the bullshit. You'll feel a little less screwed on a personal level when we're all screwed together and we need to pull together to fix things.

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chrysalis33rpm wrote:^^ Î don't think he was arguing for the auto bailout, more just sick with the irony of it all.

Open question: Would you prefer to let the big ones (AIG, Citi, Detroit...) fail and have catastrophic systemic collapse? Or give them a massive cash infusion that they don't deserve? Remember, we are talking, like it or not, about the pillars of your world.

I don't know how to answer, BTW.

As scary as the initial impact may be I see failure across the board for everybody as the best option. Our corporations are broken beyond repair and we need to quit sticking gum on dam leaks supported by old and bad habits. I have faith that the currently lazy and uninspired americans can rise to the ocassion and rebuild a better structured and organized country. I say let's get it all over with now and start rebuilding. Quit prolonging the bullshit. You'll feel a little less screwed on a personal level when we're all screwed together and we need to pull together to fix things.

It's called creative destruction. When an old tree falls what comes of it? Many more trees spring up from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction

Let them fail and let the entrepreneurial minds who want to pioneer new vehicles take over, they've been oppressed long enough by these deluding old coots.

sparklepuff wrote:

beats me wrote:

chrysalis33rpm wrote:^^ Î don't think he was arguing for the auto bailout, more just sick with the irony of it all.

Open question: Would you prefer to let the big ones (AIG, Citi, Detroit...) fail and have catastrophic systemic collapse? Or give them a massive cash infusion that they don't deserve? Remember, we are talking, like it or not, about the pillars of your world.

I don't know how to answer, BTW.

As scary as the initial impact may be I see failure across the board for everybody as the best option. Our corporations are broken beyond repair and we need to quit sticking gum on dam leaks supported by old and bad habits. I have faith that the currently lazy and uninspired americans can rise to the ocassion and rebuild a better structured and organized country. I say let's get it all over with now and start rebuilding. Quit prolonging the bullshit. You'll feel a little less screwed on a personal level when we're all screwed together and we need to pull together to fix things.

It's called creative destruction. When an old tree falls what comes of it? Many more trees spring up from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction

Let them fail and let the entrepreneurial minds who want to pioneer new vehicles take over, they've been oppressed long enough by these deluding old coots.

beats me wrote:

chrysalis33rpm wrote:^^ Î don't think he was arguing for the auto bailout, more just sick with the irony of it all.

Open question: Would you prefer to let the big ones (AIG, Citi, Detroit...) fail and have catastrophic systemic collapse? Or give them a massive cash infusion that they don't deserve? Remember, we are talking, like it or not, about the pillars of your world.

I don't know how to answer, BTW.

As scary as the initial impact may be I see failure across the board for everybody as the best option. Our corporations are broken beyond repair and we need to quit sticking gum on dam leaks supported by old and bad habits. I have faith that the currently lazy and uninspired americans can rise to the ocassion and rebuild a better structured and organized country. I say let's get it all over with now and start rebuilding. Quit prolonging the bullshit. You'll feel a little less screwed on a personal level when we're all screwed together and we need to pull together to fix things.

The whole culture of corporate America is laughable; it truly is one great big Dilbert cartoon. Every company that I have worked at or seen has been the same, a bunch of simpletons scrambling around, trying to build up and lord over their little empires in a pathetic attempt to ameliorate their overwhelming feelings of inadequacy. The more incompetent they are, the bigger their empire and the better their title. They go to useless meetings all day with other incompetent clowns, argue about trivialities, spew out a few catchy buzzwords, and then tell each other how great they are. Well, it is easy to lead when the going is good...

The gubmint is the same, probably even worse, and surely can't fix the problem. The only thing that the gubmint can do is make things worse, and it surely will by ensuring that the dollar is made absolutely worthless.
Stagflation, anyone? Misery index?

beats me wrote:

sparklepuff wrote:

beats me wrote: As scary as the initial impact may be I see failure across the board for everybody as the best option. Our corporations are broken beyond repair and we need to quit sticking gum on dam leaks supported by old and bad habits. I have faith that the currently lazy and uninspired americans can rise to the ocassion and rebuild a better structured and organized country. I say let's get it all over with now and start rebuilding. Quit prolonging the bullshit. You'll feel a little less screwed on a personal level when we're all screwed together and we need to pull together to fix things.

It's called creative destruction. When an old tree falls what comes of it? Many more trees spring up from it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction

Let them fail and let the entrepreneurial minds who want to pioneer new vehicles take over, they've been oppressed long enough by these deluding old coots.

Well I'll drink to that!

GrooveNinja wrote:The gubmint is the same, probably even worse, and surely can't fix the problem.

What are you talking about? Obama has already planned the greatest public works project since the building of the national freeway system. In this case it comes in the form of putting energy efficient light bulbs in government buildings.

How many Americans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

beats me wrote:

GrooveNinja wrote:The gubmint is the same, probably even worse, and surely can't fix the problem.

What are you talking about? Obama has already planned the greatest public works project since the building of the national freeway system. In this case it comes in the form of putting energy efficient light bulbs in government buildings.

How many Americans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Hehehe, man, you crack me up! Thank you for enlivening an otherwise dull workday!

Hmmmmm, I'll guess about 533,000?

The major problem with the big 3 is competition. Toyota's average per worker cost for plants in the USA is < $50. The big 3 pay nearly $75 for the same workers but with benefits and salaries negotiated by the UAW. These benefits include: 90% salary after being laid off, health care and perpetual pension plans (most corps are phasing this out for anuity based systems). The best thing the gov't can do is let them file chapter 11 and restructure which would allow them to renegotiate the union contracts.

The bailout will only prolong the pain point for the taxpayers.
Someone asked where do they get the money from. They "print it". Which is a euphamism for expanding the credit or increasing circulation, not necessarilly paper dollars.

BTW, I love Ford cars and my SVT Cobra has been solid, without major overhaul till 200,000 miles.