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Tarekith wrote:OSX is for losers who can't build their own PCs. What a waste of money, sheesh.

gurumonkey wrote: Macs will continue to run both OS's well, and they sure seem committed to taking that even further. I don't see PC's trying to find ways to run mac only software at all...

Windows will continue to run on Apple, HP, Sony, Dell, etc, etc and they sure seem committed to taking that even further. I don't see Apple allowing their OS to run on any other hardware at all...

hps909 wrote:i've built about 30 high end PC's in my time from windows in the 486 days right up to quadcore win vista machnes you know what ? OS X still shits on windows and i would rather use my mac anyday to write music than my 2 windows boxes. Although they make great gaming computers .. my imac is pretty comparable in the price/spec ratio to a comparable dell or compaq or HP or anyother 'brand name' computer

davepermen wrote:

hps909 wrote:i've built about 30 high end PC's in my time from windows in the 486 days right up to quadcore win vista machnes you know what ? OS X still shits on windows and i would rather use my mac anyday to write music than my 2 windows boxes. Although they make great gaming computers .. my imac is pretty comparable in the price/spec ratio to a comparable dell or compaq or HP or anyother 'brand name' computer

so after all the years you still didn't advance further than believing the myths that existed in pre-3rd-millenium days? impressive..

not.

beats me wrote:

d-track wrote:rumors
lol
i dont need 4 core, thanks

btw
if i do myself anything on mbp for example change ram, sdd etc then im gonna loose the warranty. even if its extended
huh?

When they released the unibodies they made the hard drive and ram more accessible to change yourself and it doesn't void the warranty. Just switched my drive the other day and it took me about 3 minutes.

The previous MBP involved about 12 steps and 36 screws to change the drive and that voided the warranty. Was quite a rush to pull off though.

hps909 wrote:

davepermen wrote:

hps909 wrote:i've built about 30 high end PC's in my time from windows in the 486 days right up to quadcore win vista machnes you know what ? OS X still shits on windows and i would rather use my mac anyday to write music than my 2 windows boxes. Although they make great gaming computers .. my imac is pretty comparable in the price/spec ratio to a comparable dell or compaq or HP or anyother 'brand name' computer

so after all the years you still didn't advance further than believing the myths that existed in pre-3rd-millenium days? impressive..

not.

what myths?

Slightlydelic wrote:ive been thinking of maybee getting a used i mac sometime and giving logic a go.

since i got more into live im struggling to break out of session view, the more i use live, the more im seeing it as a instrument and sketch pad, im thinking using somethig else (logic) to lay things out and arange might be the way to go.

is anyone else doing something similar?

d-track wrote:rumors
lol
i dont need 4 core, thanks

gomi wrote:

d-track wrote:rumors
lol
i dont need 4 core, thanks

yes you do

live flies like an eagle on 4 cores.

i have a dual core 2.4ghz macbook pro
and live is ok on it. good enough for light gigging.

on the 2.8ghz quadcore imac i7 it absoluletly flies, i haven't had to freeze a track yet..

i believe the performance test on the iMac was hovering around 17%... and that's with my audio setting at
128ms 48Khz 24 bit (the test is supposed to be run at 512, 44.1/16)


Don't need 4 cores?
buy one and send me the extra 2, 6 will be even better! LOL

infiniteloom wrote:I'll try to keep this short. I've been messing about with computers for the last 25 years. Unix, DOS, windows; I've seen them all and I can wrap my head around pretty much any computer problem. Two years ago, I bought a brand new vista machine. Performance was horrible. Fixed that and ran happily for a month or two. Installs, uninstalls, reinstalls, etc. And the computer was crawling again. Like my XP machine before it, and the W95 computer before that.

Fed up with playing system administrator (I do that enough at work), sold it all. Bought a Macbook pro in a crazed moment.

The moment I turned it on, I realized computers didn't have to be annoying anymore. The simplest things like not making a dumbass sound because some USB peripheral had just been plugged in. That day was the day I started using my computer instead of managing it.

Yes, Macs are intel machines. They're basically shiny PCs. But if you're only looking at that part of the picture, you're missing out. It's not the hardware, nor the software. It's the way everything comes together and just supports what you're doing. Your computer is finally a tool instead of a crutch.

If right now, the only thing standing between total bliss and you is a faster computer, then by all means just upgrade your windows PC. However, if you're constantly fighting it, as I was, look the other way. You'll never look back.

davepermen wrote:

hps909 wrote:

davepermen wrote:
so after all the years you still didn't advance further than believing the myths that existed in pre-3rd-millenium days? impressive..

not.

what myths?

well, all of the stuff you stated none of those is particularly true. and none was, since at least that millenium. but i don't care, believe the hype.

infiniteloom wrote:Yes, Macs are intel machines. They're basically shiny PCs. But if you're only looking at that part of the picture, you're missing out. It's not the hardware, nor the software. It's the way everything comes together and just supports what you're doing. Your computer is finally a tool instead of a crutch.

If right now, the only thing standing between total bliss and you is a faster computer, then by all means just upgrade your windows PC. However, if you're constantly fighting it, as I was, look the other way. You'll never look back.