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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by SubFunk » Mon May 03, 2010 4:54 pm

UKRuss wrote:
SubFunk wrote:
UKRuss wrote:American English is its own language.
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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by JuanSOLO » Mon May 03, 2010 5:17 pm

For years I had been pure digital due to price, convenience, expandability. I went to see a local band "The Phantasties" whom Lars the band leader built his own modular set up. That was when I heard the difference between Analogue and Digital.

I'm not one to argue about one is "better" than the other, but once you hear the "difference" it is forever obvious.

I hope to see more hybrid set ups. I will always have irreplaceable love for FM8, Operator, and Concept X (reaktor synth). But these days I am on the hunt for a huge bulky %100 analogue synth to play live. I don't care if the audience can hear a difference, I can! When my energy for my own music increases that translates to any audience, even through a poor quality MP3.

With people controlling analogue gear using M4L and Ableton, this make analogue 10times more attractive.

Now days I would argue that digital is convenient considering the hours spent on creating a synth sound due to endless possibilities. The parameters established by having a piece of analogue hardware create a different kind of creativity for me. I'm not sure which one of you guys mentioned it before, but all these years on laptops I have never felt as connected to making music as I do making a guitar feedback with a live drummer.

There are nuances both analogue and digital, that are experienced by listeners, that are seemingly unnoticed, but these nuances are somtimes things that make great songs great.

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by H20nly » Mon May 03, 2010 6:18 pm

UKRuss wrote:Actually there are some very interesting reasons why the US spells some words the way they do. For example the difference between Aluminum and Aluminium. The US used both at one time or another. Google it up for some mildly interesting social history.

It's all good with me. American English is its own language.

Analogue would ten to indicate its not an English word anyway. Prolly Latin.
yeah, in "American" ten would have a "d" on the end... as in "tend", but that's... in "American". :wink:



I've been informed from reading the posts of the Ableton Forum's foremost self appointed expert on all that is wrong with most countries, especially the United States, that all Americans are fat and lazy. So, I'm thinking that it was laziness that must have caused us to take the unnecessary U's out of words like "colour" & "flavour". I've read that it was the French that helped stuff them in there in the first place though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_a ... our.2C_-or

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by UKRuss » Tue May 04, 2010 11:54 am

Impressed you managed to drag your lardy ass away from the telly to type that. Well done.

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by Angstrom » Tue May 04, 2010 12:56 pm

H20nly wrote: So, I'm thinking that it was laziness that must have caused us to take the unnecessary U's out of words like "colour" & "flavour". I've read that it was the French that helped stuff them in there in the first place though...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_a ... our.2C_-or
It wasn't laziness, it was tidiness that created the US spellings.

The English language depended on who invaded England when, and whatever the political overlords were at the time. EG: After the "Normans" invaded (1066) the language of the ruling class slowly became Old French. We have a long and twisted history of being ruled by the French/Germans. The famous English king Richard the Lionheart only spoke (old) French and hated England. The current Queen is actually German.

Way back when books started getting printed all countries and languages noticed that their spelling was variable and hard to understand, so spelling reform became popular (still is). In the US Webster was for spelling reform and had some societal backing as it signaled a break from England, while here in the UK we didn't reform it because we are proud of our history of getting raped by the Italians, the Normans, French and Germans

tldr; We are idiots who like to make it hard for foreigners to learn our ridiculous language and take pride in nonsense.

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by leedsquietman » Tue May 04, 2010 1:16 pm

The current queen has some German ancestry but it's very simplistic and untrue to call her 'German'.

My great grand parents were Irish as was my paternal grandmother, but I don't regard myself as Irish (although I like Ireland very much). I was born in England to English parents and 3/4 grandparents were English. Elizabeth is in a similar situation. Ironically Prince Philip's sisters (4 of them) all married German Royal Family, although he is Greek.

What can't be denied is that all European Royal families are close and that for a period, it was quite common for Anglo-German relations, something which pretty much ended with Queen Victoria, and the royal family changed their name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha during WW1, to Windsor so as not to be associated with Germany during a world war.


Her grandfather was German. Her mother and father were both born in England, and Queen Victoria was British born.
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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by UKRuss » Tue May 04, 2010 1:19 pm

Angstrom wrote:The famous English king Richard the Lionheart only spoke (old) French and hated England. The current Queen is actually German.

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My god man, you're in line for a damn good thrashing sir!

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by Angstrom » Tue May 04, 2010 1:37 pm

UKRuss wrote:
Angstrom wrote:The famous English king Richard the Lionheart only spoke (old) French and hated England. The current Queen is actually German.

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My god man, you're in line for a damn good thrashing sir!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_England
While he spoke very little English and spent very little time in England (he lived in his Duchy of Aquitaine, in the southwest of France), preferring to use his kingdom as a source of revenue to support his armies,[5]
Coeur de Lion was a grade A cunt. He tried to sell most of London to finance his idiotic crusades. Including trying to use it as his "kings ransom" when he got himself imprisoned.

The fictional heroic Richard was created by his minions and descendants, history is written by the victors. Especially in those days. Sadly - most people take their ideas about Richard from Robin Hood. The majority of that stuff was worked in later of course.

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by UKRuss » Tue May 04, 2010 1:57 pm

*removes Richard the Lionheart thong*

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by Tone Deft » Tue May 04, 2010 4:05 pm

UKRuss wrote:Impressed you managed to drag your lardy ass away from the telly to type that. Well done.

:D
who are you to call anyone fat? you're a dickydo FFS.

this is how you treat an audio discussion? get back on the little yellow school bus, Russ.
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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by UKRuss » Tue May 04, 2010 4:17 pm

I only come to General to feel you up Tone, you know you love it you nonce. :wink:

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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by Tone Deft » Tue May 04, 2010 4:19 pm

your digits are getting warmer.
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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by rekloos » Tue May 04, 2010 4:21 pm

see, everytime you bring up the "analog(ue) vs. digital" discussion it turns into an international
boxing ring.

ya'll need to go make some digalog(ue) music :evil:
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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by funky shit » Tue May 04, 2010 4:32 pm

rekloos wrote:see, everytime you bring up the "analog(ue) vs. digital" discussion it turns into an international
boxing ring.

ya'll need to go make some digalog(ue) music :evil:
:lol:

i think that sums up the music i make, well that and the word "shite".
but i do all my mixing, recording, sequencing, sampling, etc digitaly.
but a main part of my sound comes from analogue synths.
hopefully in the future ill have some nice analogue compressors/eqs for the sexy feel.
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Re: Analogue sounds warmer

Post by Tone Deft » Tue May 04, 2010 4:32 pm

it's an utterly pseudo topic but it's inevitable.

how many of those wannabe audiophile analog people listen to their vaunted gear through USB or firewire sound cards while they sneer at those 1s and 0s?
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