Reaktor 5.5 Public Beta !!

[Poster]

according to my finder i am one of them.. there is no lazerbass on my harddrives..

also no Electronic Instruments 1 & 2?

? what is that? sounds to buy? i dont buy sounds...

relax.. they now come for free with the factory lib..

[3phase]

relax.. they now come for free with the factory lib..

i dont buy free sounds either...

lazerbass is pretty heavy... the new modules seem to be pretty interesting.. and the layout of the gui is really an improovment..

5 hope 5.5 shows more cosistent behaviour with the lunchpad comunikation..had some good fun with lunchpad and reaktor but allways problems with the visual feedback/ event order bla...

[dum]

Posters requests were almost entirely workflow improvements. Nice, but hardly exciting..
in fact, this .5 update is much more exciting to me than any single thing he listed...at least there's new synthesis modules. for free.

Right, but poster is asking for things that make it certain he's delved into Reactor quite a bit, and isn't just looking for free ready made ensembles, which was your gripe about most people moaning about Reactor 6 not being out yet so he's not just whining, credit where credit is due ya know?

Credit where credit is due ? what are you on about you insufferable douche ?
What poster does with his reaktor license was never on my thoughts. I have no idea what he does with it. Addressing someone else on a different line of discussion from my 'reaktor6 gripe' comments - I said his requests were all work flow enhancements, which is exactly what they are. And moments later he's chastising me for not recognising that they're all workflow enhancements

why don't you both form an orderly line and blow me.

[Poster]

naah.. weak..

[dum]

Not at all.

As I said in plain english, workflow enhancements are nice and of course welcome.

But new sonic capabilities are more exciting to me, which is why this free .5 release is more appealing than your workflow wishes for R6.



But whatever, to placate MW - here's a big electronic pat on the back because you apparently tweak patches in a patching environment. Serious credit due.

[Poster]

But new sonic capabilities are more exciting to me, which is why this free .5 release is more appealing than your workflow wishes for R6.

some people cry for R6, none of your business, if that is what they want..
I opt for serious workflow enhancements, none of your business either..

but yet you feel the urge to compare those preferences to your own using statements like 'dime-a-dozen patch consumers' and 'hardly exciting'..
then followed by some lame attempt to provoke..

weak..

[dum]

But new sonic capabilities are more exciting to me, which is why this free .5 release is more appealing than your workflow wishes for R6.

some people cry for R6, none of your business, if that is what they want..
I opt for serious workflow enhancements, none of your business either..

but yet you feel the urge to compare those preferences to your own using statements like 'dime-a-dozen patch consumers' and 'hardly exciting'..
then followed by some lame attempt to provoke..

weak..

oh dear. another patented poster reduction of events.
I thought this was an open discussion ? ...now it's none of my business...

People were pining for R6, as per the painful norm, and I simply stated the R6 griping goes over my head.
I first explained that I was sure there are patchers who are wanting improvements and evolutions, but that as it happens the only gripers I encounter are the dime-a-dozen (as in very common) patch consumers who haven't even reached their personal limits. And guess what ? Not long afterwards MW steps up and confirms that he is one of those people. So, it's hardly a whacky outlook or offensive terminology.

As for your workflow wishes, again, I was responding to Jarvisimon (who, granted, was responding to you). Re-read it if you like. I offered my opinion to Jarvisimon, based on the comments he made, that your R6 requests pale in comparison to what's being offered in a free .5 release.

And you subsequently chastised me for supposedly not realising your requests were workflow related

If the comments you make are none of my business, you shouldn't make them in public places on topics I'm interested in.
Now THAT is weak.

[Poster]

no.. if you were really interested in an open discussion you wouldn't constantly challenge other people's comments by just stating your preferences compared to theirs..
that ain't no discussion..

Posters requests were almost entirely workflow improvements. Nice, but hardly exciting..
in fact, this .5 update is much more exciting to me than any single thing he listed...at least there's new synthesis modules. for free.

challenge me and others by going into details to engage an on topic discussion.. now you're just saying you like bananas better.. boring..


and then MW and I can suck something.. great conversation eay?

weak..

[djgroovy]

Awesome news!

[dum]

no.. if you were really interested in an open discussion you wouldn't constantly challenge other people's comments by just stating your preferences compared to theirs..
that ain't no discussion..

Posters requests were almost entirely workflow improvements. Nice, but hardly exciting..
in fact, this .5 update is much more exciting to me than any single thing he listed...at least there's new synthesis modules. for free.

challenge me and others by going into details to engage an on topic discussion.. now you're just saying you like bananas better.. boring..


and then MW and I can suck something.. great conversation eay?

weak..

Right, and of course gormlessly pining for R6 is great discussion.
Up until the point you needlessly chastised me - starting this exchange - how were my posts any less significant than anyone else's ? For easy reading I posted the change list, as well as the official announcement from stephan schmitt. Not only that, it's more than ironic that you criticise me for the statements I made about dime-a-dozen patch consumers (obviously I struck a raw nerve with you there) needlessly griping for R6... because it was that very statement that consequently lead to you posting your list of workflow shortcomings in R5.

Nice to see you clinging on to ad-hominems btw, lets me know you're on the ropes.

[dhilsabeck]

Apparently sequenced synths in Reaktor are syncing well with the host software tempo in the 5.5 update which is about as cool as can be...

[Poster]

All the 'we want Reaktor6 now' griping goes right over my head.

I'm sure there are patchers itching for improvements or an evolution of what they're using...
but all the gripers I encounter are just dime-a-dozen patch consumers who haven't even reached their limits yet.

so.. patch consumers?

There were only 2 people here who dropped R6.. What you encounter outside of this thread can never be a huge amount of people, so you observations are simply not that relevant..

You must understand that there are people who see Reaktor as preset heaven no? And that they could give a shit about patching themselves..
For those people Reaktor 6 will bring loads of new factory ensembles they can use right out of the box, so it's completely legit to ask for R6..
The only limit those patch consumers have reached is that the factory ensembles are now 5 years old and have seen the majority of UL uploads that are really good but just want some new goodies they happily pay for..
And that goes right over your head..?

Posters requests were almost entirely workflow improvements. Nice, but hardly exciting..
in fact, this .5 update is much more exciting to me than any single thing he listed...at least there's new synthesis modules. for free.

but wait.. *if* you happen to patch in Reaktor yourself you would clearly know what hell it can be to get stuff done..
My shortlist of improvements is exciting to people who actually patch.. Why you qualify them as hardly exciting can only mean one thing; you don't look much under the hood yourself but do a lot of consuming..
I could be wrong about that, but then I'm clueless why you say R5.5 is more exciting than my short list..
What good is a new interface, some new synthesis modules, a new synth and 2 free, previously commercial packs if the patching workflow is still utterly annoying and time consuming..?
Just because it's free?

enjoy unpacking your gifts..

[Machinesworking]

Credit where credit is due ? what are you on about you insufferable douche ?

Dum grow some skin, I did not attack you, just because poster douched out after I posted is no reason to act like a baby at me. Read the thread up until poster started on the ad homonym shit. It's plain logic, if you can't follow it or poster uses any excuse to be rude, well neither of those things are in my hands.

[Machinesworking]

Reposting this, as it's at the heart of the matter.

Also to all the people complaining that this update in some way means that NI aren't about to upgrade Reactor to 6 haven't followed Kontakt development closely at all.
Kontakt 3 got a major update to 3.5 that added all kinds of improvements literally only a few months before 4 was released. So it's no indication that Reactor isn't getting a major upgrade soon

My guess is Reactor 6 will be done when Reactor is ported to 64 bit. NI have already done Kontakt, I would assume Reactor and others are next.

[dum]

Poster, as usual, you have reduced a discussion to backtracking and going through what's already been said with a fine tooth comb, if not re-inventing it altogether.

I like workflow enhancements, they enhance my workflow. I said so even before you joined to stick your nose up my ass. I've said it all along. But, anything that adds new sonic territory is what excites me more - as a patcher.

Look at your posts until I got involved, you've gone 'wow' about lazerbass twice, and you've bumped a thread about electronic instruments vol 1&2.... assuming you're a patcher, I'd have assumed the new synthesis modules would have gotten you more excited. But no, until I joined you were posting alot like a dime-a-dozen patch consumer. Perhaps you're aware of where R5 is lacking on the workflow front, but that hardly means you personally are troubled by those shortcomings.

So who's first in line, you or MW ?