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Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:56 pm
by H20nly
Hmmm. well, this has all been very educational. thanks.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:58 pm
by Tone Deft
macmurphy wrote:...of course there's always the chance my skills have hugely improved in the past couple of months
the only thing that really annoys me about this is attitudes from people on
both sides of the fence.. such aggro.
hey noob, some of us have been hearing the same crap for years. it gets old.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:12 pm
by HeadrickProductions
macmurphy wrote:G.D.Matteoni wrote:/snip.. please leave the discussion.
...
everybody has the right to post here, whatever their opinion on the subject - whether it's live sounds fine/bad/i'm sick of the discussion.
3phase wrote:
btw.. first time since a while i rewired live into logic..the rewire bus is screwed, sound strange and makes scriiitching noises from time to time.. so the rewire bus is out of sync... and crashes ..so that option is history too as it looks..
yeah i've found rewire to be a little moody recently - when i start Live sometimes it says rewire has crashed/isn't working - whatever. completely random. lucky i don't use it.
keep in mind this is coming from someone who has always thought this discussion to be bollocks.
i've started remixing some recent tracks in another DAW and i'm finding that they are sounding more open and have more depth.
now, maybe it's just down to mixing in a different environment or maybe there really is something going on within Live that degrades the sound, who knows?
i know i won't be doing mixdowns in Live for the foreseeable future.
...of course there's always the chance my skills have hugely improved in the past couple of months
the only thing that really annoys me about this is attitudes from people on
both sides of the fence.. such aggro.
when doing reason 5/reecord 1.5 beta testing I sent in a crash report to props having it rewired in to live 8. They sent me an message back staying that it had to do with the way in which ableton implemented rewire. Not sure if this applies to all aspects of ableton rewired, still interesting.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:31 pm
by macmurphy
Tone Deft wrote:macmurphy wrote:...of course there's always the chance my skills have hugely improved in the past couple of months
the only thing that really annoys me about this is attitudes from people on
both sides of the fence.. such aggro.
hey noob, some of us have been hearing the same crap for years. it gets old.
noob? ok, whatever
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:41 pm
by Tone Deft
#$%^, pwned, didn't even look at your join date.
haven't you seen this over and over and over again? occasionally solid facts arise like the lack of delay compensation through plug ins but the basic "this sounds better than that" just never produces anything of substance. it's a given it'll get posted.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:18 pm
by macmurphy
i completely agree, tone. hence..
macmurphy wrote:the point... what's the fucking point...? i can't go on any more... dear god let it end
it just comes down to trusting your ears, doesn't it? if you can get great results standing on one leg, do it.
but yeah, most if not all of these threads just become meaningless noise.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:37 pm
by Tone Deft
sorry man, I'm not paying very good attention. your patience with my fuckwittery is appreciated.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 8:27 pm
by H20nly
Tone Deft wrote:your patience with my fuckwittery is appreciated.
*sigh*
you would have to drop this jem the same day i found a new sig.
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:28 am
by 3phase
Tone Deft wrote:#$%^, pwned, didn't even look at your join date.
haven't you seen this over and over and over again? occasionally solid facts arise like the lack of delay compensation through plug ins but the basic "this sounds better than that" just never produces anything of substance. it's a given it'll get posted.
come on guy..you are the tomato on the ears fraction by design..you state it in your name..just because you dont have the senses to get when something is wrong dont qualifies for playing the bully here..
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:46 am
by Tone Deft
/pokes 3phase with a stick.
weird.
3phase, would you call yourself a happy person?
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 6:44 am
by crumhorn
Again with the "Tomato on the ears" ! WTF are you talking about?
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:57 am
by lunabass
maybe he means cauliflower?
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:45 am
by 3phase
Tone Deft wrote:/pokes 3phase with a stick.
weird.
3phase, would you call yourself a happy person?
sure.. aslong i dont have to finish tracks with ableton live.. because this sucks in so many areas that its really a shame that they spend so much effort in integrating max instead fixing the basics first..
And the userbase very amusing... theese days really any retard is an audio engineer/producer... it is really magix
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 11:52 am
by Poster
3phase wrote:theese days really any retard is an audio engineer/producer...
how would you qualify yourself?
Re: bad ableton sound rumour - just caught myself :-)
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 2:52 pm
by zee verkawound
macmurphy wrote:i completely agree, tone. hence..
macmurphy wrote:the point... what's the fucking point...? i can't go on any more... dear god let it end
it just comes down to trusting your ears, doesn't it? if you can get great results standing on one leg, do it.
but yeah, most if not all of these threads just become meaningless noise.
The first part is the absolute and undeniable truth, the second part however is a perception and is not the truth but rather an agreement with someone else's perception.
I owe Ableton a debt of gratitude for introducing me to electronically facilitated music creation and production. That's a perception.
Ableton is not a 64bit application, is unstable according to a majority of people I have spoken and conversed with personally concerning high quality 3rd party plug ins, and as a progressive company that designs and sells cutting edge musical design and sequencing software, they consistently have released versions that need major refinements PAST the point where their next versions are made available to the public. These are all 100% factual statements.
You make your own choices.