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beats me wrote:Just caught wind that unions in France are generally fucking up the country through protests and strikes over the proposed retire age being raised from 60 to 62. Here in the states it's a pipedream for most people to retire much before the age of 65 and by the time I approach that age the accepted retirement age will be closer to 85.

Silliest of all students are getting involved in the protests. That's like a fetus protesting the legal drinking age.

Could France use some serious problems? We've got plenty here we'd like to cut loose.

You brainless american bastard ! my father is 65, has worked as a cabinet maker since he was 14 and he can't retire because he would earn 350 € per month after having paid huges taxes all his life. He still works 6 out of 7 days and carries heavy stuff all the day alone. If you think life is made to die of a cancer at the age of 45 because of work stress and the need to satisfy your greed for plasma sceens and smart phones, go ahead !

Says the masiv douchebag that bought all this stuff

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d.reamonn wrote: Yeah, and I'm the one jumping to conclusions about people. Seriously, wow. I say two lines, and you instantly jump to Ayn Rand and fascism. Why don't you just call me racist and be done with it?

Nope, you're worse. You wished the quick death of someone based on them complaining about a long work week.
Racism is silly compared.

I really think you should look up the definition of fascism and the Fascist Manifesto before you go any further...

Highlights include:

- The quick enactment of a law of the State that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers
- A minimum wage
- The participation of workers' representatives in the functions of industry commissions
- Reduction of the retirement age from 65 to 55

All in all, you lose. Massively.

Ya fascist cunt

Right, none of what you quoted is considered by anybody the definition of fascism. It might have been the original bullshit line the italian fascists used to get into office, but you're a unschooled idiot if you don't know that they immediately abolished trade unions for instance. A famous quote from Mussolini, "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”.
So again, you don't know what you're talking about, you're jumping around googling anything you can use to argue with, and you're a waste of time and effort since it seems you really don't even understand why I said what I said, like for instance that you're a social darwinist, and blithely agreed with me.

Basically that you attacked someone for complaining about being overworked with a wish for their death, well, I'm pretty sure most rational thinking people will understand why I don't respect or think it's even necessary to continue this discussion. One day hopefully you'll grow up.

Machinesworking wrote: Right, none of what you quoted is considered by anybody the definition of fascism.

Wrong. I don't want to name names, but wrong.

Machinesworking wrote: A famous quote from Mussolini, "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”.

Nice. But again how do you get from freedom to corporatism? Explain yourself rather than throwing around big words, if you are such an expert on politics.

Machinesworking wrote: ...like for instance that you're a social darwinist, and blithely agreed with me.

Social darwinism is a loosely defined term at best almost always used in a derogatory way... it has been used to describe everything from laissez-faire (the good guys) to socialists, fascists and racists (the bad guys). So what you told me was true, from a certain point of view (I'm referencing Star Wars for extra points).

Machinesworking wrote: blithely

I like this word.

Machinesworking wrote: Basically that you attacked someone for complaining about being overworked with a wish for their death, well, I'm pretty sure most rational thinking people will understand why I don't respect or think it's even necessary to continue this discussion. One day hopefully you'll grow up.

Nope, I attacked the git for wanting to subjugate an entire nation because he is a delicate little flower. Childish? Possibly. Either way. Now I've got to get to work... I'm working a full 90 minutes today. I choose to work so little so I can have more time to spam forums with hate speech. Just something I do.

Hi everyone, let's try to take a step back for a second and ease up on the personal attacks. No one likes a good discussion derailed by back-and-forth insults.

I told you girls to keep it civil. Now you've brought the wrath of The David upon us.