Recording Push Drums in Arrangement Mode - issue / idea!

[lyovino]

Wrong! I'm recording it all to the arrangement…

[elzinko]

Wrong! I'm recording it all to the arrangement…

Hi lyovino
Please, could you give your hardware configuration? Do you use Push?

[lyovino]

Yes I'm using push. See my signature below…

[elzinko]

Sorry i was meaning : "did you use push for your test"
Thanks

[elzinko]

lyovino, do you think i could be possible you provide us a video, like the one in the first post, please?

[jackson88]

lyovino, do you think i could be possible you provide us a video, like the one in the first post, please?

im also still not getting it. a vid would be helpfull

[lyovino]

Sorry, I'm not setup for any type of video, but will try to give a simplified example.

Just to be clear: "We are trying to record our Session clips to the Arrange while simultaniously overdubbing."
(This example will also record to the clip in Session as well as the Arrange, but at least it allows you to play thru to the Arrange while recording your clips over.)

Using Live Suite, 9.1.5, and Push.

Example:

- In Session, record a 2 bar drum loop to a Session clip. (Kick and snare)
- Now, In Session view, select the Arrange record button and be sure to have the track you want to overdub to Arrange is record enabled.
- Hit the Record button on Push (Lower left)
- The metronome will count off, now play a cymbal for the 2 bars.

This will accomplish recording your clip to the Arrange while also overdubbing. Hit the Tab key to see this. As I said above, you will also be recording to the clip in Session.
(If you choose to retain the clip without the overdub, just duplicate it before you record it to the Arrange.)
I find this to work well until Ableton gets it fixed in an update. I hope I was clear and have addressed the issue of this thread. If by any chance I did not understand, I'm sorry.. Hope this helps?

[elzinko]

As I said above, you will also be recording to the clip in Session.
(If you choose to retain the clip without the overdub, just duplicate it before you record it to the Arrange.)

We do not want to overdub the clip in session, we only want to overdub to arrangement.

In session : one clip that remains the same whatever happens
In arrangement : the recording of the clip that is played + the overdub notes

The video of the first post only show what's wrong with the PUSH (disabled when you hit arrangement record), not really what is expected?

In fact, we want :
- the drum pad NOT to be disabled when you hit the arrangement record button
- the played notes (overdubed) ones) to be recorded in the arrangement and NOT in the clip of the session.

I agree this would be kind of a new mod, and this mod would be selected when :
- arrangement record button is ON
- PUSH record button (bottom left) is OFF

Thank you for your explanations lyovino. Much appreciate, even if it didn't solved the problem.

Jackson88 we are alone!

I will ask Ableton team if I can patch my own

[lyovino]

As posted, ableton is aware of this broken feature and hopefully working on it as he mentioned? It seems as though you're trying to fix it before they do? What I posted and noted was a workaround, not a fix. Believe me, I too wish it were working as you say it should… At times while I'm in arrangement view I also have trouble with the overdub button not functioning there as well. Go figure.

[NoSonic822]

We do not want to overdub the clip in session, we only want to overdub to arrangement.

In session : one clip that remains the same whatever happens
In arrangement : the recording of the clip that is played + the overdub notes

why didnt you just say this in the first post.......and post a vid explaining this is what you want to be able to do.......

any way.....I still stand by what i said....you just need to duplicate the track...because this isn't something that you would be doing all the time...it's a infrequent practice.

but hopefully ableton will "fix" that "problem" for...you..so you will be happy.....

cheers

[elzinko]

why didnt you just say this in the first post

Cause I'm a tyran that want you especially to loose your time ?

any way.....I still stand by what i said....you just need to duplicate the track...because this isn't something that you would be doing all the time...it's a infrequent practice.

But I did understand that very well since your first post

but hopefully ableton will "fix" that "problem" for...you..so you will be happy.....

I am not the author of the first post

Have a nice day

[Valiumdupeuple]

Guys, if you want to overdub in Arrangement, from the arrangement at least this device will let you do it:
Push-ArrangeMode
Its main purpose is to add an Arrangement mode to Push, but one of the consequences also is a straight forward record/ovr mode.

If you want to play on top of a playing Session clip and record this overdub in Arrangement (e.g while the global record is on), then yes this is complicated... And actually isn't a bug, it's how Live's designed (that's what the support@ableton answers). I'm pretty sure it that it wasn't a problem in pre-L9 versions, but I don't even have L8 installed anymore to test...

[lyovino]

Deleted post.

[elzinko]

Sorry lyovino, I edited the post to change the name

[elzinko]

Guys, if you want to overdub in Arrangement, from the arrangement at least this device will let you do it:
Push-ArrangeMode
Its main purpose is to add an Arrangement mode to Push, but one of the consequences also is a straight forward record/ovr mode.

If you want to play on top of a playing Session clip and record this overdub in Arrangement (e.g while the global record is on), then yes this is complicated... And actually isn't a bug, it's how Live's designed (that's what the support@ableton answers). I'm pretty sure it that it wasn't a problem in pre-L9 versions, but I don't even have L8 installed anymore to test...

Thanks Valiumdupeuple. I'll try it tonight.