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Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:16 pm
by regretfullySaid
Re:dream - that's cool. What can I do to repay you?

Tom, you've proclaimed yourself a negative nancy. I prefer debbie downer. Not everyone uses traktor. The dj shouldn't be about showing off or keeping themselves interested. There's plenty of simple math to get the point.

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:54 pm
by TomViolenz
re:dream wrote:
shadx312 wrote:Please rip em and share
please

Will do. It is a completely unlabeled and unsorted mishmash. Want to sort through it a bit. Will upload to dropbox and share the link here
Ha, that does sound intriguing 8)

I hope the vinyl is still in good shape? White labels are usually made of lesser quality stuff.

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:04 pm
by re:dream
It's already ripped. I got it in MP3 and FLAC. Variable quality. Haven't even imported it to Itunes yet. Will get to it after the Christmas holidays.

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:05 pm
by TomViolenz
shadx312 wrote: Tom, you've proclaimed yourself a negative nancy. I prefer debbie downer.
Right, I wasn't sure you refered to that. A little difficult without a lead in. Could have been so many other cultural references that I wasn't aware of. :lol:

To make it clear though. I would rather proclaim myself a realist or maybe a disappointed optimist.
But I know others here see that differently, so I rather get in front of it and save them the work of calling me what they think of me and my writings.
Not everyone uses traktor. The dj shouldn't be about showing off or keeping themselves interested. There's plenty of simple math to get the point.
sure, no contention

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:06 pm
by TomViolenz
re:dream wrote:It's already ripped. I got it in MP3 and FLAC. Variable quality. Haven't even imported it to Itunes yet. Will get to it after the Christmas holidays.
cool 8)

I'm curious if it will be a blast from the past for me, or something I totaly missed at the time.

Where did the records originate? In SA?! 8O

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:13 pm
by re:dream
Mostly London, if my friend is to be believed. She's an odd girl. But the music is interesting.

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:16 pm
by TomViolenz
re:dream wrote:Mostly London, if my friend is to be believed. She's an odd girl. But the music is interesting.
That might be interesting. Techno wasn't nearly as global back then as it is now. So it could well be that this is some totaly unknown stuff to me.
Maybe not just the records themselves, but already the style 8O

I'm intrigued 8)

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:26 pm
by smutek
TomViolenz wrote:
I have a hard time thinking of anything from before '98 that held up to the tests of time.
Here's some!

Adam Beyer & Lenk - Drumcode 01, 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4USxAC4c8w

Cari Lekebusch - Straffbas, 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_pOyuFI3o#t=115

Jeff Mills - Division De Lignes, 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2IZW1h6dw#t=150

Safety Session ?– Crescendo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-arTZmkKpS0#t=28

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:27 pm
by smutek
Was going to post more, but dinner is calling.

:x

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:27 pm
by smutek
Don't forget Adam X

:x

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:29 pm
by smutek
Don't forget Speedy J

Ginger, 1993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lP6Pu4-ME

:x

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:07 am
by TomViolenz
smutek wrote:
TomViolenz wrote:
I have a hard time thinking of anything from before '98 that held up to the tests of time.
Here's some!

Adam Beyer & Lenk - Drumcode 01, 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4USxAC4c8w
meh, that kinda stuff I can do without.
Had the displeasure once to hear a Berghain set from this guy. Not so long ago actually.
3h of that utterly boring shit.
Seems like he didn't change up much since the beginning.
Cari Lekebusch - Straffbas, 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_pOyuFI3o#t=115
Well, if you consider this just weird or high art is a matter of taste. But the horrid production quality makes my point, rather than counter it.
Jeff Mills - Division De Lignes, 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV2IZW1h6dw#t=150
I'm not sure why you think that this is somehow special. absolute standard fare. Well, for a minute there I thought: Uh, what's that creeping up from the background there? Turned out it was just the vinyl crackles :lol:
boring

Look, all of this I like better than the cheese that's happening in the mainstream of Techno right now, but it was precicely as I remembered it. Hard, fast, mostly boring.
It fit the atmosphere at the time - and I have fond memories of it. But I don't consider this good musicaly, just as I don't consider Punk good in that sense. (And I had some fun at those parties too)

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:11 am
by TomViolenz
smutek wrote:Don't forget Speedy J

Ginger, 1993

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lP6Pu4-ME

:x
Well, you should have just posted this and stopped while you're ahead :lol:

No seriously, that is some awesome shit, and it's the oldest of the bunch too. 8)
Imaginative sounds of different variety, great stereo field, morphing between different rhythms, a good vibe. I was smiling the whole time :mrgreen:

That center placed ankle bell (or whatever that was) was kinda nausiating though, at least on headphones.

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:30 am
by john gordon
I would have much rather seen Richie Hawtin die than Joe Cocker.

Re: Richie Hawtin you idiot.

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:18 am
by TomViolenz
:twisted:

:(