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has anyone considered that .........

adamjay is DJretard , and kaizer, and robert de niro

haha

fwiw .... i think this dj retard got humiliated on a forum , and vowed to hunt his tormetor down. he's going to be a real life stalker when he grows up.

And in return AdamJay get's more time to spend with his girlfriend.

We all might have to step it up a notch in his absence but in the end It works out for all of us.

Ive also been a member here longer than Adam Jay. I have this alais an
done other one. With this one I can do this type of stuff.

That's pretty sad mate....... I'm Mr-Yellow, my business name is Mr-Yellow,
my domain is mr-yellow.com, my domain whois has my name & address
(altho it needs an update), my name is Ben, I let everyone know it.........

Why create another account just so that u can be an asshole while
protecting your real identity....... That's so stupid.....

If I wanna be an asshole..... I be an asshole and be proud.....
I don't hide behind a fake name....

As for Adam..... Haven't been keeping track of this drama, but seen it
happen a bunch of times, you did a lot of great work for the community.....
Sticking your head out that far always makes you a target for those that
have problems with ppl in "authority" even if the authority is only that
bestowed by a community rather than officially. Let things die down and
don't put so much energy into this place.... I know it feels good to help, but
seriously it's just a bunch of ppl on the internet, a few of them are real
friends sure, but who needs to waste time helping some warez kid in
Buttfuck (edited for cultural reasons) who would soon as piss on u as praise
u. Just not worth the stress.

It is worth having you around to help spur discussion and show detailed
insights into effects and their use in Live. No need to get involved in
everything, but when you have some details from experiements, no harm
in sharing.

-Ben

This is the last and final post I wil make on this subject as your bleeding hearts are just killing me.

Its real simple:
Adam Jay thought I was a Noob over at OSX I had posted three times at this point. My post was nothing to do with him it was a query regarding Ableton Live.

Immediatley to bring me down he childishly posted his entire release schedule and littered his post with references as to how important he was. I responded and gave him a clue as to who I was. He didnt respond after that. I forgot the matter.

Adam Jay was BANNED from osx not for that incident but I guess an accumulative reponse due to his treatment of other members. Obviously those modertators dont see Adam jay as the angelic figure he has most here thinking.
Then comes the Keyzer soze. There was a little more before that but that was the culmination. Keyzer was personal from the offset. if you care to read the thread which was 90% positive theres 21 of a total 23 posts from keyzer who kept hammering his point home. I disagreed with one tiny little point and it was like setting of krakatoa. I left the thread and Keyzer contimued his rhetoric.

Nothing Keyzer said publicly got to me. It was what he said in his Pms. He pushed and pushed and eventually the Pms became vile. I immediately knew that keyser was a longterm member using an alias. To cuta long story short I eventually narrowed it down and simply took him on in public.
he was not a random target. I have gained nothing from this. I alsked him time and time agin to deny the osx incident. I sicnerely hope when that forum opens up again you go there before edits his post.

Any man I know would have done exactly the same as me if they were on the recieving end. The fact that he is highly respected aroudn here is obviously something I thought about carefully. I have gained nothing from this experience except a thousand hateful comments. I expected this anyway.

You guys can think what yu want of me, but also remember your Angelic Adam Jay has a jealous streak up his back a mile long. Anyone that talks such vile crap about Sasha as he did so many times has a problem of coutrse as always passed these nasty comments of as g=humour or sarcasim. A well knonw get out clause. Im no Sasha fan but no one deserved that rhetoric over and over again. On any other forum i know of he and many others who joined in the Sasha bashing would have been warned and then eventually banned. The most amazing thing is ABleton allowed this to carry on despite Sasha being the highest profile user of Ableton Live. Im sure sashsa couldnt care less anyway, but still Ableton could have pmed the ringleaders of the Sasha hate campaign and politely asked them to calm down. Anyone who tried to defend Sasha was usually cut down. ANY new person arriving on this forum would have seen those Sasha threads and thought what a horrible hateful place to be. That stuff was a billion times worse than what I have done!

Now take your bleeding hearts, heal them and get on with your lives. Adam Jay will return soon enough I can guarantee you that. Hes playing the deeply hurt sympathy card and your all falling for it. Evertime I have seen somenone say they are going to leave they always return. Why announce it, just do it like a man!

He deserved what he got. If he was man enough he would admit to being a Prick and this shit would have all been forgotten by now.

I will say no more on the matter-ever.

DJRetard = Sasha?

No wonder his music is so boring

Look mate...... I don't care bout this whole thing really..... but you're weak..

Why have 3 different accounts for 3 different reasons. Why put all
your "help" in one account, all your hate in another, all your stupidity in
another. Just be yourself for fucksake, just say who u are rather then
eluding to this BS and just be yourself. The only reason this whole thing
makes u look bad is because you're hiding, if u just straight up stuck with 1
ID, everyone would at least know u'r entire personality rather than just the
part which is a asshole.

-Ben

MrYellow wrote:The only reason this whole thing
makes u look bad is because you're hiding, if u just straight up stuck with 1
ID, everyone would at least know u'r entire personality rather than just the
part which is a asshole.

Agreed. Ironically, your little scuffle with AJ probably wouldn't have started on osx had you not been hiding behind another alias there....

MrYellow wrote:

Ive also been a member here longer than Adam Jay. I have this alais an
done other one. With this one I can do this type of stuff.

That's pretty sad mate....... I'm Mr-Yellow, my business name is Mr-Yellow,
my domain is mr-yellow.com, my domain whois has my name & address
(altho it needs an update), my name is Ben, I let everyone know it.........

Agreed man. 100%. Same here, smutek is my real name and smutek is the only name you will ever see me use here.

Just how pathetic and childish is it to hide behind a hundred annonymouse screen names and talk shit about people on the internet? It's weak. Beef or not its just about the lamest you can get.

You've got problems DjRetard. What are you 16 years old or something?



And I don't remember Adam Jay being banned from OSX Audio but whatever.

Jimmy Smutek

PLEASE PEOPLE:

all this person asks is for people to answer his messages (as i'm doing right now... ).
i think most of us *sane* users agree on all the points of other *sane* users. so please let it go. ignore.

if you feel the last poster of a thread is trolling, JUST DON'T POST REPLIES.

THANKS. let's self moderate.

DJRetard wrote:

Then comes the Keyzer soze. There was a little more before that but that was the culmination. Keyzer was personal from the offset. if you care to read the thread which was 90% positive theres 21 of a total 23 posts from keyzer who kept hammering his point home. I disagreed with one tiny little point and it was like setting of krakatoa. I left the thread and Keyzer contimued his rhetoric.

Nothing Keyzer said publicly got to me. It was what he said in his Pms. He pushed and pushed and eventually the Pms became vile. I immediately knew that keyser was a longterm member using an alias. To cuta long story short I eventually narrowed it down and simply took him on in public.
he was not a random target.

.

I have been away touring for a short while and just got back home and see a whole bunch of crap written by DJRetard.

You really are a delusional prick DJRetard!!!!!! And you are lying saying that my PMs (which by the way were a response to your PMs to me), were vile and attacking you!!! I told you my opinion on your music and you took it as a personal attack rather than constructive criticism. The posts are there for all to read. If you can be bothered do a search on the thread titled. "RETARD POSTS A TUNE COMPLETELY DONE IN LIVE BETA 5" My Pms back to you were just me responding to what you said to me AND TRYING TO ASSURE YOU THAT YOU HAD A GOOD IDEA THAT NEEDED MORE DEVELOPMENT!!!!!!. But somehow you failed to comprehend that

I should maybe apologise to everyone here who are unhappy that AdamJay is leaving. It could partly be my fault. I understand now what he was implying when DJretard said he knew me. He was under the delusion that I was AdamJay under a different name having a go at him.
Dj Retard is a complete wanker with a severe mental disorder!!! I had a bit of a run in with him not too long ago regarding some music he posted and wanted comments on. I gave him my honest opinion and he reacted so badly. He couldn't understand basic English comprehension. I'd write one thing, he would interpret it in another way. He even started sending me PMs, but I told him that I wouldn't read them, I will just delete them without opening them. He is completely dillusional!!!! He was making assumptions that he knew who I was. Actually, thinking about it now, I think he thought I was AdamJay under a different name. He obviously had a gripe with him about something and was continuing that feud with me thinking I was AdamJay.
The guy is a complete tosser and he would do everyone a huge favour by shoving his head up his arse and sucking real hard!!! With a bit of luck he will just completely disapear into nothingness.

Get a life you sad fucker Retard!!!!!!!!

he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.

Thanks Mr.Yellow for the edit,actually double thanks, with tears in my eyes, from laughing for about past 5 minutes!!!! This edit is just tooo funny. I imagine you make some slick music, you fast and creative no question about it. Damn, I am still laughing.
Actually that`s what I like about this forum. I mostly go online on my breaks and apart of some usefull information I am truly entertained, some of people here have amazing sense of humor, at least kind that appeals to me. Then somebody giving up smoking to buy upgrade ?????, totally nutty- I mean it positive, most of people here are insane starting from Robert an I am glad we all so insane. Unfortunatelly there are some real madcaps too ( which is very different from the "insane" divino ) , perhaps worse, boring or dumm, but that is the part of reality. Shooting yourself because you stepped on dogshit, that`s a bit overreacting
BTW did that non smoker get the upgrade ?

this is just text on screen. take everything with a grain of salt.

DJRetard wrote:This is the last and final post I wil make on this subject as your bleeding hearts are just killing me.

Its real simple:
Adam Jay thought I was a Noob over at OSX I had posted three times at this point. My post was nothing to do with him it was a query regarding Ableton Live.

Immediatley to bring me down he childishly posted his entire release schedule and littered his post with references as to how important he was. I responded and gave him a clue as to who I was. He didnt respond after that. I forgot the matter.

Adam Jay was BANNED from osx not for that incident but I guess an accumulative reponse due to his treatment of other members. Obviously those modertators dont see Adam jay as the angelic figure he has most here thinking.
Then comes the Keyzer soze. There was a little more before that but that was the culmination. Keyzer was personal from the offset. if you care to read the thread which was 90% positive theres 21 of a total 23 posts from keyzer who kept hammering his point home. I disagreed with one tiny little point and it was like setting of krakatoa. I left the thread and Keyzer contimued his rhetoric.

Nothing Keyzer said publicly got to me. It was what he said in his Pms. He pushed and pushed and eventually the Pms became vile. I immediately knew that keyser was a longterm member using an alias. To cuta long story short I eventually narrowed it down and simply took him on in public.
he was not a random target. I have gained nothing from this. I alsked him time and time agin to deny the osx incident. I sicnerely hope when that forum opens up again you go there before edits his post.

Any man I know would have done exactly the same as me if they were on the recieving end. The fact that he is highly respected aroudn here is obviously something I thought about carefully. I have gained nothing from this experience except a thousand hateful comments. I expected this anyway.

You guys can think what yu want of me, but also remember your Angelic Adam Jay has a jealous streak up his back a mile long. Anyone that talks such vile crap about Sasha as he did so many times has a problem of coutrse as always passed these nasty comments of as g=humour or sarcasim. A well knonw get out clause. Im no Sasha fan but no one deserved that rhetoric over and over again. On any other forum i know of he and many others who joined in the Sasha bashing would have been warned and then eventually banned. The most amazing thing is ABleton allowed this to carry on despite Sasha being the highest profile user of Ableton Live. Im sure sashsa couldnt care less anyway, but still Ableton could have pmed the ringleaders of the Sasha hate campaign and politely asked them to calm down. Anyone who tried to defend Sasha was usually cut down. ANY new person arriving on this forum would have seen those Sasha threads and thought what a horrible hateful place to be. That stuff was a billion times worse than what I have done!

Now take your bleeding hearts, heal them and get on with your lives. Adam Jay will return soon enough I can guarantee you that. Hes playing the deeply hurt sympathy card and your all falling for it. Evertime I have seen somenone say they are going to leave they always return. Why announce it, just do it like a man!

He deserved what he got. If he was man enough he would admit to being a Prick and this shit would have all been forgotten by now.

I will say no more on the matter-ever.

well.. (devil's advocate speaking here) I can see your point..
if you can prove that AJ said all the things on osx.com you're completely entitled to speak up like you do now..

think it's very strange that nobody actually asked you to prove it, and chooses side for AJ instantly..

again; prove it, and the bashing will be over..

but,
if it is all false,
be a man,
and leave the forum..

Retard, how come you thought Keyzer was Adam Jay ? Remember Keyzer thinks Joe Satriani makes great music, I don't think Adam Jay likes Joe Satriani.

Although I think Retard went too far, I also think attacking Sasha over and over again (honestly I don't know exactly who does, I don't read those threads, still the attacks pop up in other threads regularly, including in this one), is not any better.
It's not because several "respectable" users agree on bashing Sasha that it makes it more acceptable.

Sasha is probably a great guy, so why all that hatred ? because of his music ? Most music I hear from users has little value to me but that doesn't entitle me to insult the people who make it.

osx.com shows me: All the best resources on the net

is this the usual suspects or are we all just joking