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Two huge problems for us audio guys.

a) No FW800 port
b) No PCMCIA card slot!

Aside from that and some minor aesthetic issues (MacBook Pro, sounds way lamer then a powerbook, and it doesn't look as cool) It should be pretty awesome.

4-5x as powerful is hard to beat!!!

enjoy your time with your iMac... free of emulation, native applications, no worrying about software having to be updated and whether you will have to pay for those updates or not...

or sell me your old rubbish G5 iMac for a couple of hundred pounds??

I'm calmer now, the initial period of blinding rage has passed. The sad thing was I always figured I would sell my iMac when they came out with Intel PowerBooks. But now I'm guessing the resell value is going to drop a lot. Maybe not though, we'll see.

"MacBook" is a lame name for a cool computer. I think our old PowerBooks will retain high resell values because their name is so superior.

StompyJ wrote: 4-5x as powerful is hard to beat!!!

apple website wrote:Up to four times the speed of the PowerBook G4

"up to"

powerbook runs at 67% on Live 5 performance test

67 / 4 = 16.75 %, this figure seems unlikely to me.

I would expect the real CPU usage will be more in line with what we would expect from a dual core dothan offspring. Dothan results are about 27%, I would expect around 22% from Yonah.

they look good..Should be sweet. I think they will be good on first run for some reason.

Angstrom wrote:

StompyJ wrote: 4-5x as powerful is hard to beat!!!

apple website wrote:Up to four times the speed of the PowerBook G4

"up to"

powerbook runs at 67% on Live 5 performance test

67 / 4 = 16.75 %, this figure seems unlikely to me.

I would expect the real CPU usage will be more in line with what we would expect from a dual core dothan offspring. Dothan results are about 27%, I would expect around 22% from Yonah.

Apple always over estimates things like power and battery life.

claudek wrote: Apple always over estimates things like power and battery life.

To be fair there isn't a computer manufacturer that doesn't do that.

hambone1 wrote:

Machinate wrote:Chinese calendar?

hehe, I'm a die-hard pc guy, and -I- think it's cool. The iMac always was an attractive product to me anyway.... *checks the price of the 20*

Elitist moron...

hehe, not anymore... I checked the website.... gulp.

nobbystylus wrote:Ok... now the direct comparisons with the Windoze machines can start... feels pretty odd.. wait for all the comments :

'you can buy a Dell with exactly the same spec for £150 less... !!!!!!'

slightly depressing...

we've been paying twice as much for Apples as we could for Dells for the last 4 years - just to have OSX.

now being only £150 more is revolutionary!

the new Mac-Intel AD:
http://www.apple.com/intel/ads/


I know this tune, but I just can't put my finger on it. does anyone know what tune it is?

Angstrom wrote:

StompyJ wrote: 4-5x as powerful is hard to beat!!!

apple website wrote:Up to four times the speed of the PowerBook G4

"up to"

powerbook runs at 67% on Live 5 performance test

67 / 4 = 16.75 %, this figure seems unlikely to me.

I would expect the real CPU usage will be more in line with what we would expect from a dual core dothan offspring. Dothan results are about 27%, I would expect around 22% from Yonah.

well i'm sure it would be that good if Live 5 was multithreaded.
as it is, expect something more like 25-30%

I wonder if you can install windows on these things too to have dual boot capability? That'd be sweet considering that I have some plugins that are windows only that I'd like to use on occasion.

rob.

let's see if it's possible to dual boot these machines into Windows...

kenn michael wrote:let's see if it's possible to dual boot these machines into Windows...

you'd want to buy a license for Windows XP to put on a $2500 new mac?

insane.

robin wrote:

kenn michael wrote:let's see if it's possible to dual boot these machines into Windows...

you'd want to buy a license for Windows XP to put on a $2500 new mac?

insane.

Is it really?!

Two points:

The PowerBooks aren't gone. They're still there. Meaning the MacBook is their new 'mid-level' laptop. I bet mid-year there will be new iBooks, and new PowerBooks. The MacBook was probably necessary for the 'intermediate' user, and it also avoids the problem of killing off either the iBook or PowerBook line right now.

OS X provides dynamic load balancing. Even if Live isn't dual processor ready, OS X will dump threads between processors so that you're not overtaxing either one. That's the sweet part. Of course it would help if the application was multi-processor (or multi-core) natively.

I'm in the market for a new machine, and now I have no idea what to get. I was expecting the prices of the G4 PowerBooks to drop, but that didn't happen. And I would guess that in May or June, you'll have new machines with much more power (and probably firewire 800... I'm willing to bet my car on that one) at a comparable price.