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Re: screw dual booting.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:01 pm
by gomi
yah i was on page 3 when i replied

ha ha

Re: screw dual booting.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:02 pm
by robin
gomi wrote:
yah i was on page 3 when i replied

ha ha
heh heh

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:25 pm
by Machinesworking
MrYellow wrote:Rebooting all the time just to use a program..... Used to have to do that
for a few things where I had specially tweaked hardware profiles but got
more CPU now...... I think you'd probably find it better to just run 2
computers with KVM, a cheap PC for a few progs wouldn't set you back
much at all.

-Ben
That's what I was planning on doing until a friend decided to pretty much give me his dual 2.5 G5 for next to nothing. 8O So being able to boot XP is going to be really cool on the merom macbook I buy in early Fall! That way I can use XP synths etc.., yet still use certain live plug ins like Musolomo that are only out for mac, when I play live with Live.

intel core altivec?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:19 pm
by gomi
Vector execution units

From the perspective of Apple fans who were vexed by the loss of the much-loved AltiVec, one Core's most significant improvements over its predecessors is in the area vector processing, or SIMD.

As noted above, 128-bit floating-point arithmetic operations go into the two FADD/VFADD and FMUL/VFMUL pipelines. So these two units handle both vector and scalar floating-point operations. Both of these pipelines are also capable of doing floating-point and vector register moves. Finally, I'm guessing that the FMUL/VFMUL pipeline also does vector square root operations.

For integer vector operations (64-bit MMX instructions, and 128-bit SSE integer instructions), the picture is a bit murkier. From what I've been able to gather, the vector integer units on ports 0 and 1 appear to have been retained and widened to 128 bits for the purposes of single-cycle 128-bit vector integer computation. I'm currently assuming that, as with the PIII, one unit is a 128-bit VALU/shift unit and the other is a 128-bit VALU/multiply unit.

There's a fifth 128-bit vector pipeline on port 2, about which little is known except that it does vector register moves. I suspect that it also handles SSE shuffle operations (hence the name VSHUF I've assigned it) and vector reciprocal and reciprocal square root operations. This unit would be the rough equivalent of the AltiVec vector permute unit that exists on the PowerPC G4 and 970. (For a handy discussion of AltiVec vector permute and SSE shuffle instruction equivalences, see this Apple reference page.)

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:41 pm
by HD1
what does that mean in english ?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:47 pm
by gomi
RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?

i dunno!

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:52 pm
by HD1
:lol:

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:16 pm
by noisetonepause
RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?
It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:57 pm
by hivemind
forge wrote:
snowtires wrote:now what they need to do is, when they get the quad core mactels, figure out a way to boot up both osx and xp at the same time, each using one dual processor a piece. you could run everything you wanted in osx and have the xp running gigasampler or fruity loops! oh man, i haven't used fruity loops in years.
I'm really interested about this - what exactly does "universal binary" mean? it kind of suggests that you can run either or - are we moving towards a setup where you can just run any components of either OS all at the same time - not even bother loading the OSX or Windows shell and just load live plus the plug-ins you want weather they are mac or PC - so if the PC version of live runs better then run it and eventually there will only be "universal binary" and no mac or PC version

does anyone know how likely that is?
an application that is a "universal binary" means that it can run on both PPC and intel-based MacIntosh hardware running OSX 10.3.9 or higher. at this point in the space-time continuum, it bears no relevance towards Windows OS, AFAIK.

)hm)

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:04 pm
by gomi
noisetonepause wrote:
RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?
It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...
neener neeener neeener

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:14 pm
by noisetonepause
gomi wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:
RopeyPunter wrote:what does that mean in english ?
It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...
neener neeener neeener
You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for this :P

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:35 pm
by hoffman2k
noisetonepause wrote:
gomi wrote:
noisetonepause wrote: It means he read Ars Technica's article on Intel's Core architecture and couldn't make enough sense of it to actually nick something that would make sense in this context...
neener neeener neeener
You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for this :P
If this was college, you would be too drunk to be bothered :wink:

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:41 pm
by gomi
noisetonepause wrote: You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for this :P
college is for sissies.

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:01 pm
by forge
sweetjesus wrote:virtualization

in 2 years nothing will be the same
can you elaborate?

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:05 pm
by noisetonepause
gomi wrote:
noisetonepause wrote: You do know that if this was college you'd be kicked out for this :P
college is for sissies.
Well, my member title on the SOS forum is Blouse Wearing Nancy...